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Good for Joe. Never thought I would say that Joe be like…

Odds would at least favor a QB with a long history of ball security and turnovers….being asked to go deep more behind a horrible OL would have increased odds for negative plays though. We need OL talent. OL is so bad a great OC’s plays would blowup on him. People will always be disappointed with offensive playcalling…with a horrible OL. You can’t successfully pull it off for 4 quarters vs good comp. The lines make or break an offense or defense.

funniest part about the greatest and most memorable play in Panther history… per Jake, it never actually worked out well in practice when they ran it. So essentially, a play they weren’t even good at was called and just happened to work out masterfully. That’s football sometimes. The line between genius and dumb often is so very thin

there would be even more of it. which would make the odds of winning go down.

I think the Panthers have the best win% and most playoffs appearances under Shula than any other OC. I hate that brand of football but at some point the team success IMO has to factor. not saying his the best or was good....but Shula can't rank at the bottom in Carolina.

We have an offensive line that is horrific in pass pro and a QB that has long been plagued with ball security issues.... you really want Brady to be pushing a bunch of deep pass plays and double moves? That sounds like the perfect recipe for the O to just turn it over and prevent us from having a shot.

I think if Cornbread Brown just laid down on the ground every snap…he would grade higher than Miller.

I’m sorry, quoting myself to highlight how stupid this was. What I should of said was, maybe we can start inserting some DBs into the OL. A chaos effect. Confuse defenses about what the fug is happening. Why the fug is Jackson and our newly acquired DB playing LT and LG? I don’t know but maybe you can tell me why Robby Anderson just caught that 80 yarder on you while you think about it!

maybe we can invent some new package that features 11 defensive backs all on the field and give it a cool name

With CMC, I would take us.

paying Jackson big money seems like a Hurney move. Which is what Robby feels like too. and a lot of the board praised many of the the Hurney contracts….that they would later bash him so hard for. Nothing would make me want to make Jackson a highly paid DB any time in the near future. Even if he had a 2015 Norman season (which I doubt)….you gotta beware of guys who have one season that runs in contrast their entire career.

We have played one team this year with good WRs and a good QB though… and that team happened to run for 250 yards on us. Which limited the need to really go at our secondary hard. He has had a good start, odds say he probably is closer to the guy he has been over the past 3 seasons than the one this small window is painting. this is a big show me week IMO. 2 great WRs and a good QB.

My bad. Had it mixed up. (I’ll edit other) 6th round pick for Gilmore 3rd round pick plus JAG TE for the #9 pick of 2020 point still remains, nothing about that says you are getting a lot in a trade for Jackson. Who hasn’t put together one strong overall season yet.

We got Henderson (#9 pick of 2020) for 3rd We got Gilmore for 6th. I think we would get way less than people think.

But in one breathe we talk about how the OL is absolutely horrific and note the the fact saw pressure on an absurd number of snaps….no protection to hardly pull anything off. and then in the next day Joe Brady should be running double moves? That means the QB needs even more time. We have an OL issue. You can scheme around an OL sucking only so much. Too much talent on the other side in the NFL.

This thread has super high odds of being predictably Huddle-seque… Same people calling him a top 5 DB this week gonna call him overrated if he is beat repeatedly by Jefferson and Thelien this week. Which easily could happen. Because they are very good WRs with a capable QB throwing to them. Something we have only seen once all year.

We should get CMC back this week…which is a big plus. Defenses play us different. that said, I’d probably call this a coin flip type game. Either team could win. Vikings will be one of the toughest games to date though. They have a lot of problems on O to deal with. this is one of the weeks you have to the offense show up and play well. Can’t expect the D to dominate and put it all on them vs well built offenses. Contain and limit. Offense has to score points vs middle of the road defenses.

You play to win the game. Win % while each was the OC….puts a very unpopular guy at the top.

Arnold lead the Jags in catches and receiving yards this week… a dependable TE is a young QBs best friend. We gave Cam 2 year 1.

Hubbard just needs more reps. He keeps looking better. He needs a good offseason to work on his lower body. CMC went down much easier on first contact his rookie year than year 2 to present day. Chubba struggling with that first contact right now

Arnold is a solid JAG. That isn’t an insult. You have to have solid non-superstars that consistently contribute. he was the best TE on the roster present day. Darnold did well going to him. And we traded him away for a red flagged DB….despite having Jackson, Horn and then getting Gilmore. if the goal is to fix Sam and have him work they should of put more work in the OL. And at a bare minimum don’t trade away the weapons he likes as you seek to rebuild him.

Well going back to the draft my worry about the new GM was his Seattle ties and what he witnessed there….a historic D build oddly off the secondary. It’s why I felt he would go Horn at #8. Despite DB not being the right back given what we are/we’re. He seems overly committed to DBs at this stage. And the Seattle OL went to poo while he was there. I would have rather kept Arnold. Especially if the claim is to rehabilitate Darnold. Nothing about this roster really says that. OL is utter trash. That’s never never made sense with the claim that they thought they could fix Sam. You then trade away a super solid TE that Darnold had decent chemistry with….and Darnold keeps looking worse ever sense. granted CMC is out. But his favorite two non-CMC targets were Moore and Arnold.

I think Robbie is most upset that he has gone right back to being what he always has been after his one season…. Robby also simply isn’t playing good football of late. And a lot do that has nothing to do with Joe Brady and is all Robby.

I think dealing Arnold was a mistake. He isn’t Kelce but he was solid and consistent part of the gameplan. You need guys like that. I like what I see in Tremble but he isn’t Arnold yet *If focused on the present day Panthers

I would have rather parted with Freeman