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I’ll repeat it. Every play goes through his ears. And he has input and the ability to do whatever he wants with it. and no a competent OC is not going to do anything with a the worst starting QB in the NFL paired with a bad OL. Overall he will look horrible. Brady was a project to begin with. You give what the Panthers did? Well, it shouldn’t be shock. That’s on Rhule. Brady is a freaking pass heavy offensive mind. That’s what Rhule brought in. Nothing about Rhule’s tenure says he is good at addressing problems. Tepper had a Seattle GM that overly values DB. That doesn’t make Tepper good at addressing problems. See QB and OL. The two biggest problems and they are getting bigger and worse under him.

Lot of players have for tools to be good and aren’t. The draft is full of them and most are never to really be heard of or ever become noteworthy. Sam experiment shouldn’t of ended when the Jets dumped him. His path back to a starting job should of been a long one.

Rhule hired him. Every play runs through Rhule’s ear. and we know Rhule has say. Like when he wanted to call a stupid fake punt on his 15. and if you gave a competent OC the worst starting QB in the NFL and a horrible OL….they will suck. As bad as Brady? Who knows. Brady was always a project. But they would suck too

which is why teams without a QB have to start playing the QB lotto. Which Rhule and company don't get. They have brought in established bums and backed them up with his college QB. If you have no QB, you draft Fields. Or you draft Mac. Or you trade away captial to get one that wasn't going to fall. And you bring in Menshew. You bring in actual competition. You start playing the QB lotto. You don't just make Sam Darnold the plan. If that is your plan, you shouldn't be in charge of a NFL team. That's college football. In college, you can get to a decent or good record without being an actually good college football team. Heck, in college you can be a top 25 team. And not actually be good. This is a weird year in college football but in a normal year....you can win games and squeak into the top 25....and not really be good at all in reality. Still be a 20+ point under dog when you step on the field with one of the really good programs/teams.

he is also a rookie, he isnt' suppose to be a legit starting RB yet a couple games into his career....on a team with horrific run blocking and bad QB play. He has looked very good IMO all things factored.

I'd rather lose next week with PJ than with Sam. Everything is last season on repeat....much only worse. Last season got to the point, I preferred to lose with PJ than Teddy. It guarantees the staff has to move on from the starter. Teddy then. Sam now. The PJ mantra has never been about PJ being the starter. Just displacing the pointless QB the team insisted on riding with and forcing the front office's hand going into the next year.

Cam went 15-1 with a weak cast around him. QB is basically all that matters. Unless you want to build your team and then cross your fingers for a fluke season of overachieving without one. Green Bay would win 2 games if they had Sam Darnold. But they will contend this year.

you can't look at the final score when talking defense effort. Giants last 3 scoring drives....they averaged 23 yards a drive. It's a variation of the Eagles game. The defense wasn't the problem in either game. They set up wins if paired with average offense. Some are expecting the D to be able to overcome unimaginable horrific offense. Offense impacts defensive performace. The 85 Bears or the LOB or whoever wouldn't of been legendary if....there O set them up to fail for 4 quarters routinely with no offense and sabatoged them with bad field position. It would have bleed over. Easy points would be had.

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we at least could consistently move the ball around the field last season with Teddy. We might not of made a lot of big plays and we struggled in the redzone. But have regressed pretty badly because of the QB downgrade. and now, we won't play anymore rookie QBs making their first NFL starts to feast on. I guess our only hope is a COVID depleted team.

I mean, my intention isn't to be a Brady defender. But the Panthers gave him the worst starting QB in the NFL and what might be the worst OL in the NFL. What plan could an actually good OC come up with to make that work and it not routinely make his calls look horrible? people call Byron Leftwich a good OC now. He is just letting Tom Brady work his magic. Sean McDermott? Bad DC with bad talent. Great DC with good talent.

Matt Rhule boggles my mind. Like in camp, bragging about how he let other coaches dictate what they wanted to do. Almost like it was a privledge to be on the field with people who are better. and then your QB problem...is essentially mapped out by your Defensive Coordinator. What does Matt Rhule actually do and good for?

and then you can you know....just let him have time. And he will just give you the balll too. Sam is the worst QB in the NFL when not pressured. Just look at the last 2 weeks, horrific INTs......nothing to do with the OL sucking. It's what he always has been.

The NFL had a chance to get film on Sam Darnold in the Carolina offense. And now he looks every bit the textbook defintion of Sam Darnold and being the worst starting QB in the NFL. Which is the position he has held for some time now (rookies and QBs forced in by injury don't count when competing for the crown).

Adrian Peterson once set the single game rushing record against the best rushing D in the NFL. Bad games. Happen. Did they play great against Dallas? No. But you are going to have those every once in awhile. the D played great against the Eagles. They set up a blowout early for an average offense. You leave any NFL defense on the field all game with zero offense......things will get bad evetnually. That was the case for our D vs the Eagles and Giants. Did we give up some plays agasints the Cowboys and Vikings? Yes, and that is going to happen vs really well built offenses that feature a good QB, good RB, and multiple good WRs. The league is designed for them to win.

Defense is fine. You leave them on the field with no offense….and yeah, they eventually give up points. That’s not a defensive problem. It’s horrific offense bleeding over.

He doesn’t really have trade value. He is highly paid RB that can’t stay healthy. RB is the easiest position to solve on the cheap.

Oh we mayne. That pass. It’s why Sam Darnold is horrible. It’s why the OL isn’t the cause of him being horrible. He has always done that. He always will. Just horrific. but yeah, Chuba is off to a nice start. But there is a big gap between CMC and Chuba as players. Big gap between RBs isn’t a drastic as QB and we shouldn’t be paying for that difference.

Most recent Super Bowl Champs (minus the Patriots) Bucs - coach prior to the SB winning coach lasted 2 years KC - coach prior to the Super Bowl winning coach lasted 1 year Philly - coach prior lasted 1 year Denver - coach prior lasted 1 year Seattle - coach prior lasted 1 year Its not just the Browns that part from coaches that don’t work. You part with coaches that don’t work. You stick with coaches that give you a reason to….until they don’t. Not For Long league applies to coaches too

Seattle fired Jim Mora after one year (5 year deal) and a mini dynasty was born after that. So your argument is the Bucs should of shown more patience with Greg Schiano and company? lol. Why? He was a train wreck. They kept moving on from bad people…..and now will be contending at least for back to back Super Bowl rings.

I mean the Cam plan isn’t revisionist history. First thing he did was draft a talented QB and at least offensively….it was about building something that just hasn’t been seen. Ron had that. As I said earlier, think of it however you want. Lot thought it was a poor plan by year two but it was a something to point to. which Rhule doesn’t have.

well, the zone read wasn’t invented by Auburn. Ron was the first to legitimize it. I think he gets at least some credit for that. And the gamble on Cam. Which it was. Cal was only viewed as the #1 player in the draft once Ron made it clear he likely was going to take that gamble IMO.

Generally teams show patience with guys that give them a reason to show it. So the Bucs should of stayed with Greg Schiano….just because. and in the world of just coaches and general, Jim Mora had a 5 year deal with Seattle. They fired him rightfully after one season…. that worked out pretty well for Seattle. If someone clearly isn’t the guy? Yeah, you should just move on.

Ron had a plan though. Regardless of what you think of it. He drafted a uber talented QB. It was clear he was in the process of building something AND was doing something the league really hadn’t seen on O. There were definitely year 2 struggles but there at least was a clear plan. Develop Newton. Bring the RPO zone read to the NFL and make it work. Rhule just looks lost.

Plenty of teams have moved on from coaches after two years…. you could start with looking at the list of college HCs that for NFL jobs.