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I mean, Landry is a 5 time Pro Bowler. He simply has done things in the NFL Robbie Anderson hasn’t and is a better overall WR. 3 straight headed into Clev and 2 Pro Bowls when he got there. Landry being slept on IMO. That’s not a knock on our guys. call OBJ and DJ a push in talent. I mean, look at how OBJ played with the Rams last year. Just seems a tad extreme to say this is the most talent Baker has ever had to work with by a large margin. Talent around Baker hasn’t been an issue. For whatever reason when Clev paired it up the results weren’t as good as you expected. Maybe that is scheme and coaching up there. Maybe it’s chemistry and a wrong mix of personality. Hard to call it a lack of talent though IMO.

But your argument was fairness and not just giving jobs to people. That locker rooms demand it. so in context, Cam rolled off the couch, didn’t know anything about our offense and immediately took PJ’s job. PJ, the guy Rhule went into every season and deemed capable if that moment ever were to arise. That the locker room I assume believed in. And overall, that locker room knew PJ more than Cam. now obviously going with Cam was the right call. Because no one cares about fairness to PJ. We we cared about Cam, some excitement/magic and we hoped to actually win.

It doesn’t matter where someone was drafted 5 or 10 years ago. Certainly not by other teams. Especially if your soapbox is lecturing about fairness today and how guys somehow are owed the right to fair competitions. The draft position angle is actually no different than referencing the salary/cap hit as to why folks get opportunities. Which is why I said Sam got his to compete. Not fairness but his cap number. Which again, that’s not about fairness. Sam’s cap hit is what got him the opportunity to compete. We didn’t draft Sam so the draft aspect is meaningless. But a drafted kid by a team can get opportunities/chances over someone we didn’t draft. That’s not fairness. That’s the NFL. It’s professional sports. The investment and money matters. A bad investment in Sam affords him opportunity. A fair battle would be Sam vs PJ. But money and mistakes prohibits that competition from occurring.

Heinicke didn’t get to defend his spot this year. And he has played better than Sam. Cam Newton literally rolled off the couch and took PJ’s job last year knowing nothing. PJ was healthy and ready to go….and the team supposedly was confident in him to step in if Sam got hurt. So how did/do those locker rooms react? How are those fair? Seems like a reasonable question. NFL isn’t about fairness. 89 assaulted multiple teammates while not playing the game of football. You think CJ or Shi can do that and stay employed? We went after Watson willing to mortgage everything. You think PJ could be even employed with a fraction of that for the league minimum. Sam Darnold got a competition because our front office had mass egg on their face and is the biggest cap hit on our roster. Not out of fairness.

Again, it’s paid professional sports. Grown men know when someone can’t play and is being given an opportunity that is simply because of their contract or draft status. NFL isn’t about fairness. Why was Cam just given a spot ahead of PJ Walker straight off the couch last year. Didn’t know the playbook. PJ was ready to do his job. He had been here for 2 years, healthy and prepared for that moment. Team said he was the backup. That was literally PJ’s purpose and the plan was it not? The backup we entered 2 seasons with. Was that fair? Did it tear the locker room apart? but I guess Sam is owed respect PJ and others aren’t. Did our boy Heinicke get to battle for his spot? He was better than Sam last year? Nope. It’s the NFL. They paid someone else and his paycheck dictated their would be no competition. Its the NFL.

This is the NFL though. It’s paid professional sports. It’s not the business of being fair. Sam Darnold wasn’t owed anything following 4 years of being a trainwreck with 2021 being the worst of it all. Sam Darnold got a competition because he is the highest cap hit on the roster and a mistake made by our front office, not out of “fairness” IMO. I don’t think it at all equates to Rodgers being pissed about Love. GB wasted assets that could of gone to help Rodgers. in a fair world Sam would be competing with PJ for the backup gig. But that’s not the NFL. Sam’s bad contract matters .

Why does liking Sam the human mean he is owed a competition? PJ is a nice dude probably. Where is his fair competition? Everyone watched Sam play last year. And all the years prior. You know Baker is better than Sam. I know it. The team knows it. i mean some of it is just busting Rhule’s balls because he exists at this point. But he has a lot to do with why that is happening. That’s life. He took the paycheck and that is business.

OBJ/Landry > DJ/Robbie Higgins came from Clev if that is the 3 here our TEs aren’t tilting the scales to our favor Clev had one of the best rosters in the NFL around Baker. And he had a great backfield that was diverse and deep.

Yeah, Rhule had to shelf him last year to get that big gait issue fixed he had last year. The one only Rhule can see. Because that was apparently an issue per Matt Rhule. That was around the time Rhule was talking about BC’s tiny TRex arms. Now he is apparently working on Baker’s mechanics and footwork so far Rhule has had one rookie really pan out to date. Chinn. And he moved him after his breakout rookie year. Never doubt Matt Rhule

Rhule was out there today acknowledging chemistry issues. We keep seeing botched Baker snaps under C. I mean, yeah, Baker goes quick. All our Cs need as much time with out new starter as possible to get it down. Instead we had Sam taking starter reps

I think he means his present job now that he is officially the backup

It’s all good dude. You get week when you want it. Skip will have us in the playoffs until mathematically eliminated and will bet a billion cases of Moutain Dew on it lol.

Just found that odd. Wish a reporter followed up on what Rhule meant by Baker still adjusting to our mechanics and footwork.

All Skip knows is Baker is here so we will get talk on his show. Skip doesn’t know poo about us but he will. Baker is someone he does follow. And Baker can do largely no wrong in Skip’s eyes.

Wonder what still “adjusting to our mechanics and our footwork” means in regards to Baker Mayfield?

Skip doesn’t like the Panthers. Skip loves Baker Mayfield. He is one of Skips chosen. Skip would take Baker on a broken leg leading the Carolina Gameocks to beat Green Bay. *Skip also thought Rhule would be foolish enough, like me, to let Sam start the season off and Baker would come in a couple weeks after the season was underway. That’s for whoever said earlier today that no one else but me thought Rhule would be that dumb.

I mean they generally are spot on. The goal of the line isn’t to actually get it right. It’s for the masses to be equally split on what might happen. 7 seems about perfect. Hard to argue going over or under 7 right now.

I mean, Rhule leads the Vegas odds to be fired based on national perception of what we got cooking up in Carolina. It isn't a huddle creation.

Well, to me is just comes down to the structure of the college playoffs. It has been designed perfect for the ACC to date. A gift for Clemson. Who knows where it goes in the future.

I'm curious in the bigger picture. Clemson does a good job of having guys learn underneath to take over. Clemson's DL talent this year is great. Pending they stay healthy, anyone should look good with that talent. It will be interesting if they can get guys in without Venables and what the new guy does with his own recruits.

Some of it was probably just the reality that the ball in Sam's hands was making it hard to win games at a certain point. The Vikings game I think is where he finally conceded a normal offensive gameplan wouldn't work with Sam Darnold. Think the first play of the game was Sam throwing an INT. A complete pointless Sam INT. Probably the worst INT on the season. Sam went 17/41. We somehow managed to get back into that one. Rhule went on a big rant about running the ball post game there. But at that point it was over. We didn't have a strong enough run game to deal w/ the fact Sam Darnold was the QB. And everyone knew that we didn't want the ball in Sam's hands.

Jacoby is the starter though in reality given the suspension.

Dabo just sits around and comes up w/ corny nonense and sells the hell out of it. Somehow it works. I no longer question how it does. It's a mystery I quit debating long ago. and Dabo would be an utter failure as a NFL coach. Yet is a modern day college GOAT. His strengths don't translate. And that's okay. I still say Rhule is a knock off Dabo.