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Smearing Tepper….by saying he is partially to blame for the failed project along with RH, York County, McMaster, etc. lol You just have a Tepper fetish. Simple as that.

Nothing about the York County lawsuit proves this whole nightmare falls on one party. I’m not ignoring anything. I simply won’t cherry pick one statement as true and them deem everything else nonexistent. And I haven’t switched diddly up. I’ve always maintained all parties are at fault and should be held accountable. They won’t. But they should. 2 people want a carve out for Tepper despite RH and YC making legit accusations he is part of the clusterfug. Time could clear Tepper. Time could clear other folks. That’s not today. Feel free to excuse anyone you want. Tepper, McMaster, Rock Hill, York County are all to blame in my book. My percentage of blame for each might vary in the end. Someone might get excused. That’s certainly isn’t today.

The agreement states that the city’s “reasonable best efforts” would not require Rock Hill to “pledge, use or contribute any funds, revenues or assets” to repay the bonds. The agreement states the city’s “reasonable best efforts” to issue the bonds should not be construed as “an assurance or guarantee by the city that there will be a buyer for any of the bonds.” https://amp.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/article260804372.html Much of the flap stems from the fact that the parties didn’t agree on a key issue: Who gets stuck repaying the bond investors should the project not work financially? https://businessnc.com/tepper-york-county-battle-over-a-football-inspired-center/ they needed investors to buy the bonds. It was probably the first thing/issue RH spoke on. The complaint Tepper was not giving them project details as they tried to work on investors. with all that mess in the contract and on the table …and Tepper just starts building poo? Hard to say he is blameless for why there is a half constructed piece of nothing standing tall. Guess the we will figure it out later approach proved to be dumb.

You just keep repeating the question. Which also means you haven’t really listened to any allegation that folks have had about how Tepper has gone about doing business. bonds require investors. they are the ones putting up the money. RH’s complaint early on was when they would request info on the project (for investors) and Tepper Sports would go silent. The additional details on the project were needed to attract the investors. So again. Tepper Sports would then be part of the delay. Tepper Sports refused to address the complaint when the media went to them. I don’t know anything that was discussed in reality. Neither do you. That’s why I am holding off deeming anyone in the clear until more info is out. There was an article that said RH and Tepper had major contention about the bonds and who would be fully responsible in the end. If project didn’t turn out as originally planned pre COVID RH would be massively screwed wouldn’t they? Think that’s why alternate solutions were sought (probably the don’t issue the bonds allegation). Per reports Tepper agreed to one verbally with YC and then pullled a 180 on it. safe position is to hold everyone involved at fault for the giant clusterfug until the details eventually make it more clear. It’s a pretty massive assumption that the billionaire wasn’t part of the failure. Billionaires and politicians. Horrible lot of folks. Shady lairs. I don’t trust any of them. You have a carve out for billionaires. I think they all are full poo.

If someone wanted you to invest your money….do you want info on the project your money is going to build? It was one of the allegations back when the pause occurred. Tepper Sports had no comment.

The bonds mature. Interest is paid until they do. Then the money has to be paid back to the investors. That’s the risk/debt. saying I’d start with the SC State House in my long list of those at fault in this nightmare isn’t vague lol. That’s SC politicians. And I start with McMaster. They were key in this mess getting rolling from the start. I thought about it. Haven’t gone there. Pretty sure I haven’t excused a single party at all in the clusterfug. None. Don’t plan too. Not until more is known.

Bonds require investors. That’s the money. Did they have that? Maybe. Maybe not. That was a reported issue they were having. It came up when they were complaining Tepper Sports kept not giving them details for the investors. * all goes back to the language. Can’t recall what it was. They didn’t guarantee they would issue the bonds. Best effort to. and the practice stadium wasn’t where RH would have benefited. It was everything that was suppose to come with it. And COVID seemed to of altered that. And they seemed to become aware things changed. I’m sure Tepper did too. And it sure looks like people were working on solutions. Seems like Tepper agreed to one verbally before pulling the plug. maybe Tepper shouldn’t of gone to work before the funds were acquired. Or maybe he did that to try to squeeze a small town. Who knows. Billionaires generally are good at making money by doing what they legally can….not what is right. but again, I think lots are to blame. Lots. I haven’t excused a single party. Some are just breaking their backs to defend Tepper before the facts of the epic cluster fug come out. You do you. Don’t expect others to be in a rush to claim anyone is innocent in this nightmare lol.

Tommy Jone will haunt you for that one

A lot of it isn’t so much the player. It’s the organization. use Sam. Sam is Sam. If Carolina had let him get cut, gave up zero draft picks, gave him a Bill/Trubisky deal and had him being the backup entering last season. He doesn’t get the harsh treatment. We gave up a bunch of picks, paid him, and made him the man. Expectations then get high. Carolina overpaid Robbie. He was a bigger cap hit than Diggs, Adams and those types of legit monsters. So Carolina alters the expectation for him. Which isn’t really Robbie’s fault. He is what he is. But he took the check. And the check comes with expectations.

debt/risk for a project that wasn’t going to give them the return in the end. Like I said RH is to blame. They just aren’t alone. I probably would start at the SC State House. That’s me though. again you freak out because I think a poo ton of people are to blame. You want Tepper portrayed as some poor innocent soul that was the lone honest business person. I’m not willing to go there until the clusterfug is laid all on the table. You do you though.

Taking the level of financial risk and burden Tepper wanted them to.

That probably 25% of the league. Which is really fine. But just go about it then. Robbie deleted his follow up tweet. Basically mad people talk about him and that he isn’t their entertainment. Which he is. He took millions to be an entertainer. He seems he would benefit from Sam Darnold’s advice and view. There is no point in reading and being active on social media for really most athletes. 31 fanbases already aren’t your fans and it’s tough to be collectively well reviewed by your own fanbase.

That is what I have argued people need BEFORE they release Tepper from all blame on the clusterfug. and I doubt it will be soon. Clusterfugs of this scale generally are a mess with a lot of people to blame. Not one party.

it’s clear RH had no intention of playing the role as Tepper defined it in his press statements. Again. I have never not said RH was at at fault and shouldn’t of been in this from the jump. that doesn’t make Tepper squeaky clean. The conversation and understanding between the parties clearly matters. We have very little there. Almost Nothing. Sure doesn’t seem as black and white as Tepper’s said claims IMO. I doubt York County and Rock Hill’s positions are complete fantasy.

Everyone makes accusations. Tepper makes them. Rock Hill makes them. York County makes them. Can’t pick and choose that only one persons are legit and the others all are lies. People have to actually address the accusations. Which frankly none have really had too.

Also sounds like a point of contention was who would be left holding the bag on the bonds….if the project didn’t actually have the impact to the area it was initially said to be bringing.

I'll ask again, for RH to issue the bonds.....do they need Tepper at all to do that? Let's have the bond talk. Where does the bond money actually come from. Let's start there. And I'll hold your hand to getting to Tepper. And the accusations/problems. It isn’t clear RH is all wrong and Tepper is completely innocent scenario. Certainly can’t hold that position without Tepper answering some questions given the accusations he won’t answer.

my stance for months has been Tepper and RH are both to blame. That's what he is argued against. His additional question, is really a completely seperate disscusion. Did he intentionally implode the deal or was it just RH and Tepper both being idiots, trying to dupe the other, etc. He doesn't have to be intentionally trying to sink the deal to simply share blame in the bond mess w/ RH. So pick a discusion.

RH made the accusations about the bond mess and Teppers part. Tepper refused to respond to those allegations. All that has been discussed. I’m saying both them likely have fault and fugged this thing up. This was new for RH AND Tepper. You keep digging in to it being all and only RH, I’m merely saying both are likely to blame for it falling apart. And you have consistently been against THAT stance.

Well, if you don’t know….how do you explain being so adamant that Tepper isn’t partially to blame with RH on the bond mess? Which you have been doing for months RH has made some legit accusations that need answers on the bond issue. Tepper has chosen silence when asked on this specifics. so both look at fault there IMO until proven otherwise. Yet you consistently dig in to it only being RH to blame. so it doesn’t square

you keep just reposting the same generic statement. That's redundant. I want to talk about the bond aspect. So again, RH needs to issue bonds. Do you think they need Tepper in any way to do that? Seems more like you are running from getting into talking about why BOTH of them are going to look bad in the end. I think if you asked 10 huddlers to explain the bonds you get 10 different answers. RH made some legit accusations on the bonds. Tepper refused to address it. Until they do. It is only reasonble to assume both are at fault to various degrees there IMO.

then you answer this Serious question. Do you think Tepper/Panthers have any role in the bonds being issued? Where are talking in general. Go back and time. RH needs to issue bonds. Do you think they need Tepper in any way for that?

Serious question. Do you think Tepper/Panthers have any role on the bonds being issued? Where are talking in general. Go back and time. RH needs to issue bonds. Do you think they need Tepper in any way for that?

Everyone is trying to save face. Including Tepper. RH being in the lawsuit isn't suprising. RH/Tepper are the two parties who imploded the deal. And the deal implosion is what took the County money. and again, I expect RH and Tepper to look really bad. OH NOES!!!! Some said Tepper! Someone saying he too (with everyone else) is going to look bad simply can't happen on your watch!