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again, offset clauses super routine in NFL contracts. It's not unique or special. It's not something Rhule brilliantly came up with. It's standard language for NFL HC contracts. Spinning this as Matt Rhule being a bad man is silly IMO. It's a billionaire trying to use his mega wealth to get out of stuff he shouldn't be able to. Matt Rhule isn't super wealthy. Tepper is super wealthy. and it shouldn't matter if you dislike Matt Rhule. Billionaires shouldn't be able to do whatever they want. No one should cheer that on IMO. Not in football....and more importantly everywhere else in life.

Rhule is literally doing what every other coach would be doing along with everyone on this board. Tepper owes him. Saying it reflects poorly on Rhule is just fandom getting in the way IMO. How bad of a coach Rhule was doesn't really matter. Offset clauses are routine. Tepper owes him. Tepper just using his big checkbook to pay him less. Hardly something to celebrate Tepper over. Part of what is wrong w/ this entire country. The mega wealthy using their money to screw people over.

Classic David Tepper IMO. What is becoming classic Tepper. I mean, yeah, Matt Rhule sucks and was horrific. But an offset clause is pretty standard. That's what he is suppose to get. Tepper is suppose to pay the difference. This was long talked about. Like RH. Like this contract. Tepper is a billionaire because he think he can make his own rules and probably generally has. I can seperate my Rhule distain which is massive. This is another bad look at Tepper. He once again, doesn't come off like a stand up business guy.

He is just a lotto ticket. Like basically all of them are. One drafted by a horrific HC, that ran horrific offense and didn't rep him. Him sucking in preseason doesn't mean anything to me. I'm curious what he might look like this camp/preseason. But he can't be counted on anything other than a lotto ticket we didn't scratch yet.

Corral wasn’t really getting reps in camp though either.

This time last year….no universe existed with Zach Wilson going ahead of Fields

Let’s hope Stroud gets the Fields treatment

SB50 easily is my #1. Week 1 Denver is my #2. And I still got that game the Saints tried to murder Vikings Favre as my #3.

Former VP of officials Blandino also said he wouldn’t have called intentional grounding on Burrow. haven’t seen anyone address the no call on the roughing the passer on Burrow. Guess it’s just too many bad calls to keep up with in a short window

Yeah, because chucking balls in the stands, out of bounds, and to random spots with no intent for a WR to actually catch them doesn’t happen every Sunday in the NFL you watch. Both QBs committed similar plays the week prior. That’s how far you have to go looking. intentional grounding had been a blurred rule for some time. Panthers tried to get some verbiage changed a couple years ago and didn’t get it. Former NFL VP of officials also said it wasn’t intentional grounding per the rules. Which are actually pointlessly in-depth.

when did you think he should of fired Ron Rivera? I do think the big blunder was not sending Hurney packing when he fired Ron

I mean, I think I can name 2 in the last 2 decades I would have felt comfortable giving up the farm for. but we have been in QB hell so long I can make an exception. Probably just cool w/ Stroud though. I wouldn't like giving up a bunch for the other guys.

Eagles went 0-2 when he was out with an injury this year. Including a beating at home to the lowly Saints.

OPOY - Foreman. I actually don't think this one is close. 5 games into the season he had 37 rushing yards. We then traded CMC. He finished with 914. If you projected his yards over a full season post CMC trade it's a 1300+ season. He was a tad boom or bust at times but he was the engine to our respectable finish. DPOY - Brown ROY - Icky MVP - Foreman (same as above) Play - PJ to DJ bomb but Luvu and Bozeman definitely need props

but the NFL stance in game and post game centers around no receiver being in the vicinity. Which there was, by the standard the NFL has routinely set. It was still thrown in the direction of and vicinity of a WR. And the NFL is has been much broader than that Bengals example. But yeah, Burrow was dirting it. that doesn't matter. and they let QBs do that all the time. Burrow did it the week prior vs Buffalo. Mahomes vs the Jags.

he isn't invaluable. But a stud RB is still a complimentary piece. That's why at the end it is always a battle of the elite QBs

There QB got knocked out on the first drive of the game. And it essentially killed their chances. They had a QB. One that had been playing great. in the NFCCG it turned into a game that featured a great defense and run game. And you can't win with it.

He was in the area. The ball bounced into the hands of the guy covering him. And that is what makes it a penalty or not. Was Burrow actually trying to throw it to him for a completion? No. He didn’t have to be. That's not what makes it a penalty or not. QBs get rid of balls all the time intentionally and aren’t trying to connect to the WR in the area. The point often is just to get rid of the ball and survive the sack/pressure. Not complete the pass.

You asked for examples. So I gave broad examples that show the point I have repeatedly made. It has always found its way into every sport in some fashion. Inevitable. And your argument remains the NFL is unique to an issue that has always found its way in. maybe you are right. Maybe an entertainment org made up of high character people like Synder, Irsay, Kraft, etc is immune. Maybe one that knowingly employs folks like Hernandez, Winslow Jr, etc is an immune. Maybe a front office that destroys evidence like in Spygate is immune….to the type corruption that has found its way into every other sport. NFL is your unicorn. you don’t have the evidence you want. History says it just requires patience. *I think you missed the steroid era reference point. Those were just players trying to get better lol? What? No, that was MLB prioritizing money, profit and putting on a show for ratings. Which is their goal. Not running some integrity driven sporting event. Same with the NFL. Who benefited? It saved MLB. $$$. I definitely think the NFL engages in influence to increase odds at times for certain outcomes. And frankly you can do that pretty legitimately. You don’t want Megatron and the Lions to go to far in a random year because it’s not good for business? That’s easy. Find a crew that lets DBs get away with too much junk. Make a point of emphasis on top of that to let ‘em play that week. It helps steer outcomes. It’s all about $. You want to nerf or buff a Cam Newton? Easy in reality. Then there is the whole debate about outside forces at play. 2 different things. That’s what the NFL fears. Which they have spoken on.

Okay. NBA - we already did that one. Which you can't really dismiss like you do as just a one time incident. Unless your argument is the mob only opted to participate in that one singular sport and only that one ref? Which seems like a really bad argument. Soccer (overseas) - huge scandal about a decade or so ago. Tons of fixed games MLB - Black Sox obviously, we also could get into the entire shady as fug steroid era if you wanted, and probably a host of other shady stuff in baseball. The blind on eye for some for ratings is definitely influence. College Basketball - Boston College - point shaving. NFL simple hasn't had it moment in the sun. You can however find former NFL commissioners talking about point shaving. The concerns of it. How it is a legit worry. And if they have said it openly.....it is easy to figure out why it is called entertainment and not sport. Because corruption finds it way into sports. It always does. And the big money and powers that be do their best to never let the public know anything. Remember the Spygate tapes they destroyed lol? Who needs to know what was one those. Obviously, that is another topic but it speaks to the great lengths they will all go to keep things as quiet as possible. Sports is and will always be a dirty business. Simple as that. Too much money involved for it not to be. And yeah, human history across basically all areas of life proves it largely is inevitable in terms of existing. How much it happens? Who knows. But we know factually one ref can alter a game. Super Bowl refs that have blown games have admitted the power to award the wrong team a win. And we know all the refs are just part time employees. You telling me folks with money can't get to the right person? There hasn't been guys they have been able to get to over the years? I mean, that in reality is one of the weakest tin foil hat conspiracies that ever existed. I can come up w/ much bigger and better ones than that. Actually being able to pin point when it happened? Probably not.

I have given plenty of examples of it occurring in sports. Over and over. Sport to sport. It's a constant. Essentially inevitable. You continue to dismiss that well documented fact as somehow irrelevant when talking about this topic. lol. I never said it was every game nor would I imply such. all sports are dirty. and the NFL doesn't even claim to be a sport. It claims to be entertainment. Why? Because they know there is too much liability in claiming to be that with all that can potentially occur. You think the NFL is uniquely pure. Cool. I don't. I think it is just like everything else. We disagree.

think people are using DVOA football outsiders w/ the 32nd claim

There still was a receiver in the area. Which is what makes it PI or not. And that was the NFL explanation despite it bouncing to the player. I mean, you can just keep naming the plays. Because there were so many of them. I think the punt return to set up the game winning field goal was horrific. That area of for the block in back virtually never gets missed...but it was. And that is exactly where he ran to. And then on the final Mahomes run, blatant holding to allow him to escape. Go the Bengals drive prior. Every big time QB gets that late hit in that moment. But not a game w/ that much home cooking. It was a horrifically called game. Can't have that many questionable calls late in a game. All stacking on top of each other. and I'm not a Burrow guy. Not skin in the game. But that was horrible officiating for a game like that. Especially late.

yeah, the Bengals intentional grounding was bogus. I mean, the ball lliterally bounced into the hands of the guy covering Perine.