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You put a Duke QB in the same sentence as Maye simply because he scrambled and ran well yesterday while having frankly a weak game as a passer. Probably that.

Because we are Panther fans. Not Burns’ family. And ultimately want the team to do smart things vs just enrich people with the most possible money they can get from Carolina.

He has already made 14 mill. Panthers already offered him a deal he won’t signed that likely had between 40-50 million guaranteed in it. Chubb’s had 53 mill. So I’m being conservative for the argument. that’s generational wealth already in the bag and done…..he isn’t fighting for it.

I mean, I don’t know what you are really arguing at this point. Dabo doesn’t recruit but has a top 10 class every year. He is struggling with #1 overall QB prospects. He most definitely is recruiting elite talent. Then he isn’t getting it done. He coaches in the ACC. That just is what it is. 7 of the last 8 ACC titles is getting it done. A historic stretch is getting it done. and he has 2 nattys vs Bama. King Kong. Frankly, could have easily had a 3rd too with that first Watson matchup. I don’t know what your bar is. But it seems a tad unreasonable. But I get hating on Dabo/Clemson. Runs like they have been on are annoying in general and I fully understand why most of been wishing for the fall of it

Clemson is on a historic run right now. Something only 2 others programs have ever done. 12 straight double digit win seasons with a top 25 finish. With 2 nattys mixed in. ACC champs in 7 of the last 8 seasons (including last season) Not producing? Dabo is getting it done. What we are witnessing is essentially a comical exaggerated response to an opening week flop on the road. It’s sports. It happens.

Son of… nice reference lol

Elite players do make coaches but it’s still the best roster in the ACC with the best coach. I feel no different about things than the last couple seasons.

You and a Paul Finnebaum going to stroke out if Dabo finds a way to 10-3 in the end. Clemson still got the best coach and roster in the conference.

Duke QB went 17/33 for less than >200 yards. I mean, he can run. He ain’t in the convo with those other QBs off that.

substantially more talented is debatable. We also are installing brand new scheme across the board on both sides of the ball..... and are trotting out a rookie QB. and while better coached, coached by a slow starter even when he has a vet under center. this is now a win now team and that i sbologna to put that on Young.

week 1 never generally makes any sense. No week lies like week 1.

so we are choosing between option #2 and option #D. I'd be curious to know what option A, B, C were. As well as option 1.

Tepper is George Constanza. Hopefully he has the same epiphany

at least Dabo wasn't blaming the chain gang for eating a hotdog at halftime as the reason he lost. one of my favorite parts of Gamecock fans that have complained about Dabo all these years as a whinner.....is Shane Beamer is worse than Dabo. Hard to find someone after a loss that looks worse than Beamer.

Atlanta in a ugly relatively low scoring one. I'd give it to whoever was home. That happens to be Atl.

that team doesn't exist anymore, nor does that schedule exist against teams that no longer exist. We weren't a good football team. That wasn't good football being played. Peyton Manning went 3-13 as a rookie. Just because you are mentally ahead of other QBs entering the league doesn't mean you are a win now football team.

cool. But I'm largely talking ACC. And with other ACC teams using the portal....Clemson still has the best roster in the ACC. Now if you want to talk about Clemson competing for Nattys vs Bama vs Georgia? Yeah, that probably is a portal convo. For Clemson to be permeant fixature in the college football playoff? Yeah, they will have to move to portal heavy team. and frankly, Dabo continuing the level of dominance for another 10+ years......isn't really realistic with or without the portal. As Dabo said, getting to the mountain top is easier than staying on the mountain top. A 20+ year run just isn't my expectation. We are in the ACC.

nah, some of this is just piling on. Which is fine. That's sports. People claiming Clemson doesn't recruit talent anymore. Then when showed how absurd their recruiting has been.....claiming that's now how you should measure recruiting. Sometimes teams just have a bad day. A comical day. Which means you lose a game where you go 200 rushing and 200 passing.... despite your previous record being 108-0 when doing that. A team struggling to find an offensive identity (with a new OC and essentially a new QB) lost an opening day game to a pretty decent team on the road. They had a bad day. Some if it was Duke. Some of it was Clemson. Bad days happen in sports. You just hope you can find a way to win when it all goes bad. Clemson went 11-3 and won the ACC championship last year with no QB play. They did it not just because of the stars recruits get but because they have the best overall talent on their roster in the ACC. Which was true before kickoff and is still true today. Mufah and Shipley are talented. A bad day doesn't rewrite that book because of two fumbles they were part of. And Cade had 1 start to his name. Young QBs. Kids. Do some really stupid stuff in the process of learning. He had a bad slide. You want to define him as a player off that? lol. You can just look at Clemson. Trevor Lawerence did all sorts of stupid stuff early in his first season.....in a season that ended up being an undefeated natty run where they dominated Bama. So apparently that got all erased. They essentially would have to bench him for Kelly Bryant to clean up the mess early on at times. It takes time. It's not the end of times or Clemson.

Panthers aren't lowballing Burns at 23M a year. Reddick got 15 a year in a deal last year. Von Miller got 20M a year in a deal last year.

They could still have Venables. That wouldn't address the primary problem in Clemson of late. The ability to throw the ball past the line of scrimmage. Clemson D has actually been pretty sound. When you factor in the load on their shoulders each week and what it takes to keep Clemson in a game. No way a D can be really good w/ an offense as bad as the one Clemson has been putting out there.

yeah, I'm not writing him off yet. I think you got to give Garrett Riley some time too. Got to think they can look much better than they did.

Young is still a rookie QB. And the NFL is fast.....and his skill talent is average at best. Rookie QBs generally win with insane defense or paired with HOF caliber skill talent. Only 1 exception I can really name and he was paired with the greatest head coach in modern history.

lol. I mean, yall enjoy your moment. Not trying to take that away from ACC and Gamecock fans. But yeah, Dabo is a college great. 12 straight years of double digit wins w/ a top 25 finish. Mixing in 2 nattys in the process. Best run of any non-SEC school in college football history. Matt Rhule is a wish.com Dabo.

Cade was a 5 star and the #1 overall QB of his class. DJU was a 5 star and the #1 overall QB of his class. Clemson most definitely has problems. This recruiting angle just doesn't fly. Clemson's worst recruiting class in the last 4 years was a still a top 10 class. No one in the ACC is close to their classes. He hasn't stopped recruiting talent. Clemson wins that contest in the ACC in a landslide. Has he lost the ability to evolve his offense going forward without a best in all of college football caliber QB? I think that is it. Cade was doing the same predictable junk he had DJU doing. QB play, bad or good, is just too big of a difference maker.

Clemson has absurd talent vs the rest of the ACC. That's just a fact. Poor QB play is just as big of a game changer as great QB play. That's the issue. Not recruiting. Not talent. and DJU and Cade were both the #1 QB recruits in the entire nation of their classes. You can't recruit better than the #1 QB of a class. He didn't stop recruiting talent. Dabo has them instantly looking like middle schoolers. and it certainly appears Dabo has just put his thumbprint on this O to a fault. I can call the plays ahead of time. It's been that way for years. So you know a college defense can figure it out. Clemson went 11-3 last year with arguably THE worst QB play in all the power 5. Was pretty much the same the year prior too. Clemson can pull off those great bad years with no QB play.....because the talent in Clemson isn't comparable elsewhere in the ACC