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UGA and Ohio St struggling a quarter in to nobodies

Yep, backup come in. You start encountering coaches showing mercy to not run up scores. Gets weird.

Miles Sanders has had one good year as a rusher behind the best OL in the league….while being graded the worst receiving RB in all the NFL at the same time by PFF. he could of used reps. And he could have used them in our new offense.

They forget because Sanders hasn’t been good in that role over the last 3 seasons. Frankly bad in 2 of the last 3 seasons.

If you did last year in a vacuum? Burns was probably 3rd behind Brown and Luvu in all honesty. but that’s just one year in a vacuum

The guaranteed money certainly matters.

I would expect the #3 rushing O from last season that went out and improved their rushing toys…..will limit the opportunities to sack Ridder.

It’s not cherry picking. It is what it is. He had one year of double digit sacks. Burns isn’t coming off some crazy Von Miller caliber rookie contract play. Burns isn’t even matching journeymen pass rushers like Reddick. and people are talking about cartoon money being cool. Front office made a mess of this. Because we have a weak front office. It’s largely the same one that has been making a mess of it all the past several years. Switching out Rhule for Frank doesn’t change the fact more issues exist in BOA that weren’t named Rhule. Nothing we can do about Tepper. Fitt should have gone with Rhule.

I can name several that hit the open market in the last couple years. And there contracts are out there. And the league isn’t and hasn’t been paying those types Bosa money. The pass rushing specialist tier is a different pay tier. And heck, there are some more well rounded ones than Burns that have signed very recent deals.

Panthers worked themselves into a bad spot no matter what at this point. Burns is a largely one dimensional pass rusher who has logged double digit sacks once. And forced into a corner to get out whack in the pecking order of pay.

Teams are dumping more money into high end WRs and DBs than OTs.

well, there are basically two groups IMO on that. Group A - says the Panthers are in a full blown rebuild Group B- says we aren't. I'm group A. Which makes not taking that trade mind numbing. I mean, you can't trade literally every human in a legit rebuild. But you certainly take fantastic offers. Rebuilding still requires certain foundational aspects to exist. Because you can't groom Young up if you are complete trash. It would just be never ending bad positions he is always in. So you need some defensive guys for example. Because you don't want your D to be league worst as you build Bryce up. Because he will always been in bad spots and playing from behind. You still need guys to help show everyone how it's done. I just feel the it's not a rebuild crowd's justification of why we aren't' a rebuild....means there is no such thing as a rebuild if applied elsewhere.

I mean, if the primary focus is and should be about growing your #1 overall QB.....I'd rather have Moore. What the most important thing in Carolina right now? How many wins you squeak out or how good you can get Bryce Young going?

Mingo is still a rookie. The bar and load some are expecting from them just unreasonable. They both have to learn and grow. Time. Not carry the pass game out the gate. was TMJ ready for a big load as a rookie? Nah. And that's normal. And he was a better collegiate WR than Mingo. I mean, anything can happen. But expectations should not be for the exception of things. And then doing that across the board for everyone. Bryce Young being better than every other uber talented highly drafted QB out the gate. Mingo being a day 1 contributor. Miles Sanders going from being bad for years in the pass game to being CMC lite. Chark staying healthy Theilen hitting a time machine and on and on.

Our recent past and the fact we haven't been a good football team. Then you look at life of the standard great rookie QB drafted high. We traded CMC. Combine all that. If we play a good football team, we are going to have to pass to attempt to compete. Plus, the league is designed for that to be how you move the ball.

Fitt also gave Young a backfield of rushers and not a single proven pass catcher. Miles Sanders to date is a decent committee rusher. That's what he has proven to be. We should be forced into a lot of passing this year. Young needs a reliable pass catcher in the backfield. Not hope/belief. Fitt IMO hasn't done a great job around his #1 overall rookie QB. Much like is preseason, the rookie is going to have to play extremely well for us to compete IMO given what he has around him.

that's why the post you quoted said I would take issue with the front office.

I mean, we haven't had a winning season in a half decade.....and just entered a rebuild. The super fans are pumped but it's totally understandable the casual fans in the area aren't super excited. They get excited when you win.

KC should of highlighted Justyn Ross more. He blew up this preseason. He was a first round talent. Injury knocked him off the map. Think teams still get to fixated on where a guy was drafted. Toney does nothing but disappoint and he was essentially the primary play last night.

I'm a Burns fan. I'm not a fan of our GM doing dumb stuff. Hopefully Fitt gets him signed to a reasonable deal. And if he doesn't? I won't have an issue with Burns. I'll have an issue with the front office.

Fitt already missed that deal. When you find someone being dumb you take advantage of it.

Brians Burns is from Florida. He played his college ball in Florida. He isn't homegrown. He had little choice but to come to Carolina. It's business. Never get attached to players. They aren't attached to us. you need offensive stars on your roster in the modern day NFL. You can win without defensive stars. Easier with them. But it's an offensive league. A passing league. And pass rushers are important but even really good defensive lineman will tell you.....when a great QB is on he can make the DL talent largely irrelevant.

I mean, GTD is what the whole thing is and really has always been about.

Gross Matos is better against the run than Burns. No possibly wrong about that.

yeah, I mean he is clearly focused on brand building and setting up things off the field now. I think his brother comes off much more likeable.