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I think the new HC can survive sucking next year if Bryce looks bad. He basically just has to check 1 box. Creative and good playcalling. Good vibes/culture too. I think Tepper will be willing to move on from Bryce Young after this year if need be. I don't agree with this narrative that Tepper can't admit he is wrong on something.....Tepper actually has an easy time admitting he is wrong and moving on from people. It's actually his one strength. His biggest flaw is never picking the right person from the start.

I think some of this is word play. Technically, Bryce Young can get the ball to any location that a QB would throw to. Yes. Can he get the ball there quick enough so the play would be successful? Not on a variety of the throws. Takes too much time to get the ball there.

I think there are some clear issues his size is going to cause in terms of his ability to sit in the pocket and make the throws at this level. It's not college. I really think his vision gets obstructed on certain plays/routes.....which is going to cause him to not sit/stand where ideally a NFL QB would be on certain plays. Which is why he often would miss a wide open check down. Couldn't see it. he doesn't have the arm strength to make all the throws you want to see at this level. That's no really debatable. Windows are much smaller and tougher at this level. Ball has to get there quicker than college and often you aren't going to be able to setup for every throw (which he needs to). Technically he can make the throw, certain throws are going to be invitations for picks though. We saw that often last season with some of the tougher throws on an arm. I mean, if we are going to compare him to his peers and ideal NFL play....he doesn't have the arm to make the plays others can. He just doesn't. Can you still win with it? Sure. We have seen QBs still play at a high level when their arms strength goes away. But that ideally should not be where you start off.

Tepper is the owner….this is his 4th football coach and he is on his 3rd soccer coach. So there is no guarantee in reality of anything and normal timelines are out the door.

our offense is going to be what Bryce Young does well... I think folks should go ahead and forget those Tampa Bay plays downfield

yeah, everyone this time of year is going to say exactly what folks want to here. They know what you want to here. They say it. I mean, who here doesn't want this offense.... It's going to be innovative, it's going to be creative. We will always be working to get better. And then we're going to do it the right way – on and off the field. you have to get the ball vertical down the field. You have to get chunk plays. All the statistics, all the analytics . . . that’s one of the reasons why I’m excited to work for Mr. Tepper sounds good. Sounds like what we are starving for. That's what the last guy told us was coming lol. It's all a sales job. Morgan playing to us about the old Panthers is too. Like somehow he wasn't part of what was been being built prior to him getting promoted.

then all we got to do is bring Darren Sproles out of retirement

I'm just not doing what the masses do consistently around here.....which is in the end justify and defend everything Tepper is doing going into every new season. I didn't do it last season. Or the year before. if before all the moves were made....I told you our everything advisor Jim Caldwell from the 2023 nightmare would rise to helping Tepper hire a new GM and they weren't going to hire from outside Carolina.....and then the new coach would be assigned staff/coordinators from the 2023 nightmare.....I think most would say that sounds like a really bad plan. But then it happened. So now it's good. Feel free to disagree. But that's not negative for negative sake. There is literally no evidence that Canales can do whatever he wants. Just a coincidence he had to have Jim Caldwell back right? So much history there. Tepper clearly had plans for Caldwell, Ejiro, etc before the HC was picked. I mean, this is Carolina. David Tepper rules the roost here and 2023 JUST happened. Right now is just standard fluff talk. Folks saying what they are supposed to say. Could Frank do whatever he wanted with his staff? Dan Morgan leans into some old Panther talk....and now suddenly I'm supposed to forget he was Scott Fitterer right hand man of the worst GMing in franchise history? I mean Frank and company were leaning hard into the old Panther talk too before last season kicked off. That doesn't actually mean anything. We just saw that last go round too. this looks like more of Tepper being Tepper and more of the same. We got new folks attempting to call an O around Bryce Young. Maybe they will be better at that than Frank. Still way too much old around for my liking. New HC deserved better. He deserved a clean slate and shot. I'm not pooing on Ejiro. I've repeatedly said he was the best of a horrific bunch. Which is adding to being overstated. Folks are acting like this is Pittsburgh and we had Dick LeBeau on staff. Especially when it is rumored he would prefer to look elsewhere. I'm saying he is being inflated to justify Tepper proving things haven't exactly changed here. And again, Jim freaking Caldwell is the biggest red flag there could be IMO about what is going on still at BOA.

Fun fact. The Ejiro's Panthers lead the NFL in missed tackles in 2023. Ejiro's Broncos lead the NFL in missed tackles in 2022. That Denver team came up pretty similar in their low pressure % too. I just don't see the justification of saddling a new HC that needs to change the culture.....and forcing so much of the last era on him. Jim Caldwell actually ticks me off the most. Heck Morgan actually bothers me too. Big picture, it seems like Tepper just thinks he needs to change who is calling Bryce's plays on gameday if you ask me. Sacrificed a couple lambs to the football gods to try to appease fans. But they just promoted the GM's right hand in reality. Fired a ST coach simply because occupied the interim HC job.

I merely argue, Ejiro who is a decent coach, is being inflated given how bad everything else was last year. and I think Ejiro nor our new HC have much of a choice about how things are going in 2024. Tepper paired them. And Tepper is pairing Jim Caldwell ONCE AGAIN.....to be his eyes and ears. I give this HC 2 years tops. It's more of the same. Bad or forced marriages. We needed a clean slate and new life. Tepper is just doing another variation of what he did with Frank.....and too many of the people part of the nightmare have been the voices "fixing" things.

all depends how you look at it. maybe part of the reason the D sort of oddly stood out in that cherry picked example.....was practically all the defensive players played with the opposing QB just a few short months ago. Who knows. All I know is, I can't call the 2023 Panthers D top 5 with a straight face. 32nd takeaways 32nd in sacks #1 in missed tackles 30th in pressure % 29th in points allowed.

well, that's an example of why I think he is being overrated around here. Because in reality, we were nowhere close to a top 5 defense last year. 32nd in takeaways 29th in points allowed middle of the road on 3rd down % that yardage stat isn't telling a complete story. We need a new culture. And we are forcing are new HC.....to inherit a lot of the old. I still think a clean slate is the best way to change the culture.

I think that is Tepper big picture which makes me not really excited about it. Rumors, if you believe them, say he likely would prefer to go elsewhere. I mean, he is a decent DC. I don't see why a new HC should be saddled with dudes that have been here. And there are a lot of people from the old mess still going to be around. It really does smell like Tepper just thinks he largely just needed new people calling his offense and little else. I think that is flawed logic coming off this mess we have become. I also think Ejiro likely is being overrated at this stage. He was the respectable beacon in a sea of slop. But his D made fewer big plays than any D in the NFL in reality. And the O sucking doesn't excuse that entirely. We were dead last in turnovers. And that's what you want at this stage in the NFL.

I don' think you have to be a line crosser. Cam brought it. Luke did. Thomas Davis did. They were not pleasant people on the football field. And they probably weren't pleasant to teammates who opted to phone it on.

I think Luvu is a really good player. I don't consider Luvu an attitude/not nice dude between the lines. Ron had some dudes. That's the last time we had players that had a real edge to them IMO. Brown got some in him but I just don't see it elsewhere. You need a mix. Our recipe has been missing those types.

I have said it for a long time but we have become a franchise of nice guys and check cashers. I do think Morgan gets that. I mean, name one person on the offense with attitude? Zero. How many on the defense have it? Derrick Brown. A little. That's 1 person on the entire team.

it's not hard at this level. I mean, look at the huge gains CMC made after his rookie year. He was a different runner year 2. He went down easy as a rookie.

well, I think Frank and McCown likely understood. Hence the rumored split in house over who they should take at QB. I think Bryce Young was GM /owner driven. but I mean, his size is just an issue I think. You could teach Bryce proper footwork and mechanics for an ideal ball coming out.....and where he would be in the pocket would likely cause some issues for him.

I want David Tepper at the presser and available for Qs. It won't happen. He isn't dumb in some aspects of things. But he still has a lot to answer for IMO. Which he knows.

I don't' think footwork is viewed the same today as it was long ago. Well, not how it has been talked about by fans for decades. I mean, do the best QBs in the game today have good traditional footwork? I would say they don't. So I'm not sure we missed something. Issue for Bryce is he doesn't have the physical gifts that do and he needs ideal footwork and mechanics to have a chance to get the ball where it needs to get. That what I don't' think the Panthers understood....that his size and arm are an issue. And it's a hard ask to expect him to be so elite that that can easily just deal with his physical shortcomings at this level.

Miles Sanders is an early down runner. That's the problem. We added a different version of Hubbard. I mean, Hubbard at least has improved as a passing down RB some but neither of them are natural passing down RBs. Sanders has always been really bad in that role....which people didn't' want to hear when we overpaid him. Which is just something you can easily add to a roster. Not trying to force guys a half decade into their NFL careers to be good at it.

Tepper hate aside. FC tickets are cheap and good (relatively speaking vs football). I've enjoyed the few I have attended. No emotional attachment but it's a nice thing to randomly go do IMO.

that Miles Sanders deal IMO screws the backfield for 2024. I still think we have a big hole in our backfield given Bryce Young is the QB. We lack a true passing down RB. Which should be mandatory for a QB like Bryce Young.

Teddy B's stats and production isn't what got him bounced after a year while throwing us down the retread spiral. Teddy had a career year. As did basically everyone on O.....and they didn't even have CMC in a weird year of no real camp/prep. It was his mouth and the fact he was starting to say water is wet when it came to a team that wasn't being lead by a competent HC IMO.

you can find a Hubbard or even a better version of him in rounds 4-6. Teams do it every year.