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I guess I use and view the language different. Take last year. Easier example. I understood the company line/plan I didn’t understand what they were actually doing though in reality. It didn’t seem like a plan that was well thought out and would work. So I didn’t get the plan. I largely feel the same. I get the official vague plan. I don’t see or know the actual vision/plans. They have not stated a plan where I then go….yeah, that should work and is a good vision/direction. all I have heard is run the ball and make Bryce 1 of 11. Just generic stuff. Nothing they have done makes me “get it” and understand an actual vision. either we are all on Bryce or we aren’t. And I’m not sure I get what we are doing on that. Straddling the fence? I don’t know. So I got no problem with a local celebrity not getting it.

Again, you’re mad because someone said they don’t understand what the plan is. That seems like a fine statement given it’s the Carolina Panthers. you could say the same thing last year. Plan was to fix the O. I didn’t understand what and why they were doing what they did then though We got a brand new OC. A one year OC first time HC who is calling plays and only called them one year for a meh offense built on vets. Tepper is Tepper. Lot of old faces from Morgan to Caldwell in house. What’s the plan for Bryce? Put him under C and run the ball like Wilks? A Miles/Hubbard O? Play action to Johnson? I don’t know what the plan is. That sounds like a bad one given Bryce is Bryce and what he supposed to be for us. I got no issue with someone not getting it. I’m glad you get it. Hopefully you are right. But I think not getting what we are doing is a fine take.

Last offseason folks were claiming the actions….created the best roster since who knows when and were making all sorts of 2011 and 2003 comparisons. Miles Sanders was Mr. Everything and all sorts of stuff. I didn’t buy it then.. Not buying anything I’m seeing now yet. Let’s see how the rest of the offseason goes. Actions? We are the worst professional sports team in America. Every year is a new sales job ending in the same results. do I know what we are doing? Nope. I know we spent the farm on an anomaly of a QB. And I have no idea if we have the coaches or talent to make that work. If the Panthers want to change the narrative many have….it can only be done on Sundays. Canales talks about running the ball. That doesn’t make me feel good when it is supposed to be about developing the anomaly #1 overall QB. Tampa sucked at running under Canales. People say he inherited the worst run game. They omit Brady had the #2 and #1 pass offense in the NFL prior, which would naturally limit the run to an extent. They were intentionally a Brady pass O.

I mean, I don't know what the plan has really been any season post Ron/Cam. Carolina says all sorts of nonsense. It hasn't been matching up. So I'm not sure you can expect people to take some offseason talk as some real vision plan at this stage given what these folks have been doing.

see, I think this is back to getting caught up in our reoccurring issue. The whole rebuilding yet win now team approach we have been every season since Tepper bought the team. What are we. We need young WR talent. Heck, we need offensive skill talent. This is the draft to add it. and if you want to land good vets down the road and not overpay? Well, the first thing to being attractive is a successful and good offensive outlook. It's an offensive league. Folks got to start thinking they can come here and win. I just think young offensive talent should be the focus. Even if the D goes backwards in the short term.

I think he was referencing some of those bleak pictures from games last year at the end. The type games Thomas Davis was sleeping through. I mean, I can't stand the dude. I did chuckle at him helping us out in that pic though.

I'd like us to draft a WR or even two in a deep WR class. We need long term solutions. I'd rather spend the remaining FA money in the trenches.

Well, we don't have a slot. That's like calling Miles Sanders a receiving RB. You can throw him the ball. He can catch it. But that's not what he is. Theilen isn't a good slot WR. We just play him there. He is slow. He has zero YAC. I mean, I'm a firm believer if you want to play football with Bryce Young....rec RB, TE, and slot are the big 3 key spots you have to have for him. And you need really good players there. Mike Williams is older. He is a short term rental. Why would signing him or Dionte Johnson who likely a one and done move.....prevent us from actually attempting to solve our massive WR hole in the big picture. this is a deep and good WR class and we need WRs.

I mean, this one is sort of funny after the back and forth about how we got no fans in the stadium OP somehow leaving Cam Jordan out of the call out. He is the one that got Merriman started. Division rivals just straight up clowning us out in the open. That's the bigger diss.

why? Bryce Young is our QB. That's not his style. Mike has largely made his living in SD on deeper routes and only being NFL open. Bryce IMO complicates everything.

a Texas WR and Leggette back to back in the draft?

I didn't want to go overboard and do too much.

If Luke Combs wants to talk poo....he better not do it on McAfee. He better log onto the huddle so we can give him tons of pie for the same comment.

Let's trade for Tee Higgins, sign Mike, sign Renfrow. Then in the draft snatch up Will Shipley. then, let's bring freaking Clipboard Jesus out of retirement. It will be our 2023 Joe Flacco moment but better given Charlie Whitehurst never really played. Fire Canales midseason and bring in Dabo! All in, baby!!!!

Luke Combs is probably a huddler. I'm going with iplayedCaminMadden

I mean, he ain't wrong. Any hype around Canales or Morgan at this current stage....is just true fandom willing to block out some basics we wouldn't be doing for any of the other 31 teams.

He really didn't have a great year. He just had 137 targets. If you look at the top 100 players in receiving yards.....Theilen had the worst production per reception by any WR. He presents the threat of a TE with hands.

Renfrow is good or bad depending on your scheme, QB and what you want to do on O. Hard for us to know if he would even fit here given we got no clue what our HC is going to attempt with Bryce. a Tom Brady would have destroyed folks w/ Renfrow though

and going to Adam Theilen in the pass game is also why our offense posed virtually no threat to opposing defenses. Theilen is a weak receiving TE with good hands IMO in terms of what he is giving you and threatening opponents with.

that's just coaching/scheme decisions largely. Renfrow is only going to work in an O that wants to take advantage of that type slot play. I mean, you can go listen to NFL players speak on him on all these player podcast. Renfrow is a unique beast. Just a very specific specialist. He isn't going to hold the same value for all 32 coaches.

I mean, AT isn't what you actually want out of the slot position if you are going w/ heavy pass looks. He is slow, doesn't get open, I think ESPN analytics had him at 132 in terms of his YAC ability vs the field.

Hunter Renfrow is one of the best pure slot players in the game. But you got to want to run that type game like a Tom Brady did in NE.

Johnson is 100% by far the best WR. He is WR #1. Theilen already is our slot WR. We made that our #1 WR spot in our bad O last year. He shouldn't be. Theilen should be our #4 Rickly Proehl off the bench for big pass downs. Mingo should be trying to develop into reliable enough to work the slot where Theilen was. My dream would be Johnson as the # 1 , draft a Leggette or someone to play opposite of Johnson on the outside. Mingo working the slot. Theilen comes in on big downs or big pass downs looks like a Proehl. I mean, he has hands. That's basically all he has. * Raiders cut Renfrow. Sign him for cheap and let him teach Mingo how to play the slot. I mean, if you value true slot play, Renfrow does it as good as anyone. Let him take up a TMJ/ISM roster spot.

a 2nd round C isn't a solution for 2024. Not saying we shouldn't draft one. But you got to assume that's a developmental pick when we make it no matter the round. I think outside of WR/RB or LB/Edge player.....it's really hard to expect too much from most rookie positions in year 1.

that's also a different era. lot of that the team greatly disliked 89 and we had the leadership to deal largely with the headache. I think in addition to a lack of dawgs....we have a lack of leadership. Morgan is going to have to solve that part of the puzzle too.