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my biggest complaint of the Frank era....is that son of....didn't give us one usable gif to use on the huddle. Rhule had iconic shrug. Ron had the Star presser stare. Frank gave us nothing. Someone gif that so we can use it this season when needed.

Not me. We need that doctor that gave roids to our 2003 OL to hook him up w/ some HGH or something.

I think Bryce was #1 in a lot of media stuff. I don't think there is anyway to know where teams really had everyone. I mean, plenty of football guys did talk about Bryce's limitations as a NFL QB. And they look to be right. He doesn't have the type arm you ideally want. That's just going to cap his ceiling. So will his size.

think he is hanging with the youngsters on the facesnaptok.

nice to keep them, sometimes it is better to not bring it up though. I mean, let's just say random scout was a CJ Stroud 100% guy. Well, you probably don't go up to Dan and be like....see Dan, I was right. Morgan, if he was a Bryce guy..... already knows who was a CJ guy.

I mean, if your billionaire boss upon hiring you....strongly encourages you to do X and Y? I'd say the decision was made for him. But I agree there was never any cohesion on the players or system. That's why I think you look at Tepper. Because what coach doesn't' want cohesion and his dudes. I still think everyone was essentially setup to fail. Bryce to Frank. And I'm not a super huge fan of either of them but I still think the biggest blame is at the top. Fitterer and Tepper. It was easy to kick Frank and I certainly did it a lot. But I also thought he looked mentally defeated from the jump and IMO you can sort of see why in hindsight. I just think retaining Fitterer was the bad move. He was just on a unique timeline. He knew he was the next man out. Even if it didn't happen that way in real time given how Frank basically gave up IMO. I think Fitterer really need the all star staff and Bryce moves to save face and alter the narrative. Much more so than Frank.

Hasn't it basically been confirmed that Tepper dictated that Frank couldn't just hire and build the staff as he wanted?

as soon as a pick gets made, the PR narrative is always the same. We all agreed and got exactly who we all wanted. It went perfect. In reality, there should be disagreement in house on how virtually every pick is used. Your OC with a glaring hole at WR....shouldn't be like yeah, we should totally draft that DB Evero wants despite a WR they like being essentially right there in the same area on their board. Everyone tows a company line in the end. That's just work. NFL or the real world. I still think as reported, there was a split on the QB last year. Then a decision got made and everyone sings the same song. Because that's just what you have to do.

KB was always very TEish though. I mean, Greg Olsen was more dangerous after the catch. And that's wasn't reallly Greg's thing.

also a really good OL. Line basically just had a weakness RT given we started Bell. But he had Gross, Wharton, Kalil. Which really took care of your blindside and Kalil managing things in general up front for him. Cam was definitely put into a good spot.

I want a WR double dip. I'm fine if that a 2nd and then the 3rd. Mitchell and Ladd are probably my favorites at 33. There was a time I thought Leggette could be there at the top of the 3rd but I think the combine killed that dream.

feels like Gilmore wants to get paid more than the Panthers want to do.....but if they can't solve their DB problem they will give him what he wants. Think Gantt touched on the pay dilemma I think a couple weeks ago.

CBS says Coleman was 30%

I mean, it's no secret, I not a huge fan of the new changes BUT I will say this.... I think Morgan and Canales have the potential to address the culture here. And to me, that also is a pretty big deal. Our culture and attitude sucks and has for awhile. I think Morgan gets it and I think Canales is good in that department. But I think in the end, the QB is the end all be all to most problems. That's what you got to hit. I hope to see a very different Young this year. I still don't think this org knows how to build around him. Think Bryce is too unique. Guess we will see after the draft.

wish I could find Leggette's contested catch stats from last season. I got Coleman's.

yeah, I don't disagree. My only worry is I think sometimes Tepper overcorrects off the most recent error. I think Rhule was a 180 from Ron. Reich a 180 from Rhule. Maybe this one isn't such an overcorrection given he tried to keep what worked (D) and only carve out what didn't (O). I still think he might of gone too young off of Frank. Canales and the OC have a combined 1 year of NFL playcalling between them. Think that pairs up better with vets than a struggling rookie QB.

certainly seemed like Fitt was in the random parts game. That what 2023 was on just about every level. The coach/scheme didn't fit the QB. The skill talent didn't fit the QB. And it went accordingly. At least on O....it certainly looked like random parts being forced together from the jump.

for all his flaws, Tepper has proven 1 thing.....he doesn't get attached, doesn't care to be wrong and will move in a new direction quicker than most. He might not bluntly say it in words, but his actions speak loud. You see that repeatedly in everything he does. From soccer, to football to his business dealings. Nothing suggest Tepper will stick with Bryce too long if we need to part with him.

if Sanders rebounds.....he still is one of the worst receiving RBs in the NFL. Because that what he was in 2 of the last 3 seasons in Philly and ultimately why they parted with him. We aren't meshing talented with our QB. Bryce needs diverse RBs that can catch and make plays. We need what Cohen was in Chicago pre injury. We need to draft RB talent. Rounds 3 or 4 is where you build your backfield IMO. We should always be adding talent. We should quit with FA RBs.

I don't think it's unfair. I think you can do it with both the FSU guys this year. I mean, the following draft profile is on NFL.com. Is that KB? or Coleman or Walker? He’s not sudden and doesn’t have great speed, so beating press and creating breathing room against tight man coverages will depend on his ability to improve as a route-runner. might lack the athletic traits to be a well-rounded WR2. Instead, keep an eye on him as a big slot receiver who can be a red-zone specialist.

only FSU kid I want the Panthers to draft is that TE and late. IMO, that's basically what all the FSU guys are but Bell actually plays the spot unlike the 2 WRs.

The moment we drafted Bryce....slot WR, TE, and rec RB IMO were the 3 key positions for him to succeed. And we have failed him in those 3 spots. Bryce is suppose to be a PG dink and dunker IMO. So you need YAC guys at those spots.

my argument then and now would be the same. Some of that was just PR to benefit Thomas Brown. The OC who wasn't really the OC thanks to Frank. So you spin things in his favor a little to make him not look like a nothing coach to start off the year. He designed the O by taking Frank's playbook and and then adding his own pages in addition to it. Which probably happens to everyone's offense. Other coaches are probably always adding to them. Frank wouldn't of called a true Thomas Brown creation out of the gate. He didn't know the guy, he was never an OC, and wouldn't know the O. Especially as a HC playcaller where his time in thin. That never would have made sense even for Tepper. He was going to calling the O out of the gate....but the core of what he would be going to was what he already knew and believed in.

and I still think Tepper forced Reich to let Brown try playcalling when it occurred. In one of their meetings. Then Reich took it back to go down with the ship. I don't think Frank is a bad guy. But Frank always seemed like a dude who knew at the start of the season.....that was all a bad forced marriage. He looked defeated really before the defeats really piled up. Nothing fit. Everything forced together. and I don't really think Tepper would be in the wrong outside I think the weekly meetings probably started too early though. But I think that was the design from the jump. Take these random parts and manage it all. But Frank was going to need to be called out on stuff given what it was. I mean, the entire league and everyone that watched was doing it. Frank was running a bad show.

I'd tend to side with the Patriots owner just not wanting to look foolish by getting rid of the GOAT (most consider him that)....and him going on to do better for someone else than what NE is going to do. And I'd lay money Bill in Atl would out perform NE.