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yeah, because Kittle was a raw talent...and he rapidly developed when he went into the NFL. Notre Dame kid still has to develop in the pass game. And Kittle was a rocket ship in terms of his growth.

Logging 10 yards a game would have given a TE that title last year. Brady isn’t going to scheme him up for much with his current day hands and route running in the pass game. He has work to do before we start about him as more than a blocker.

At blocking. Significantly better. He has a ways to go to catch Ian as a receiving option and Ian is disappointing at that.

The little I saw him he just looked really raw and inexperienced as a receiving option. He needs a lot of reps IMO. But his skill set gives him a lot of room to grow.

they brought it up during the coverage. The comp wasn’t actual NFL Kittle. It was the version of Kittle coming out of college. Kittle was a 5th or 6th rounder. Raw and not a polished stud college TE.

In fairness to him....he played with Ian Book at QB.

I think the comp is Kittle coming out of college....not what Kittle actually turned into as a NFL player.

Not sure we can pencil him in as weapon. But he can be valuable upfront. More so than Thomas.

Pretty raw. Interesting skill set in terms of upside. he could turn into a nice player. Gonna need to be coached up. But a nice blocking base coming in.

one can only wait for the next round... will we want the GM tar and feathered? Or will every man and woman want to marry the man. It can easily go either way.

Is he naturally left handed?

do you move DJ Moore inside? In 3 WR sets?

I can get down with him. I do like the Brady connection. need to look up what the medical issues are that made him drop though.

And then draft every draft eligible player that played at Baylor?

Fun fact. On average, Horn gave up a TD this year every 7th time he was targeted. Think Surtain gave up a TD every 24th time he was targeted.

That logic doesn’t work. There are tons of elite prospects in a draft. Jags drafting Trevor for example doesn’t mean they thought Trevor was the only elite QB prospect. They thought he was the best of the elite tier of QBs and the best for them. Steelers drafting Harris doesn’t mean they thought Etienne was a bum. Means they thought Harris was the best for them and the best of the elite RBs. You can’t claim the Steelers think he wasn’t also elite since they didn’t draft him. You only have one pick.

Sam Darnold going into last night was a one year rental. I read the room pretty well. Because I said going in the Seattle GM was worrisome for me with the early DB move being his likely go to. Because he was going to have his unique Fitterer slant. Like Dave had his bias. Like Hurndawg had his. Fields is an elite QB prospect. Bashing it as something else isn’t going to make our pick better. Hopefully we don’t look foolish. Fields isn’t a superstar. Horn is great. That ain’t certain at all though.

It’s literally something everyone will watch going forward. That’s the point of noting it. if noting that outrages somebody...maybe they are worried about how it is gonna look. Plenty of people wanted us to get address QB/OL with our first picks. There is direct connection to the Bears picks on that front.

He is a mauler and good overall athlete. Played G in college too. LT, RT. He wouldn’t be locked into just being a RT. Nasty dude up front. Pros and cons of a guy with his mentality though. just highlighting how the Bears are taking a draft....many at least suggested we should of. And it is simply going to be something everyone will have their eyes on going forward.

We could try to turn those into 10 picks in the 7th round

So we have allowed the Bears to have Justin Fields (potential franchise QB)....and gave them our second spot to draft the biggest mauler (OT) in the draft.

Panthers really have no fear of the football gods giving the Bears the pick....after they let Fields fall to them.

How many new coaches that come in to rebuild with no QB.... have done as little as Rhule in regards to a QB. They generally have made a real investment (an attempt) for the future by year 2. Rhule now on his second short term vet rental. it’s a unique plan to wait to year 3 or 4....to finally bring in QB talent to your rebuild.

yeah, nothing about picking Horn at #8 says the Panthers org is scared and trying to pick the safest players possible. The safest pick wasn’t Horn at #8. It was a somewhat bold move. There were safer players at 8. Probably could argue Surtain was the safest DB. Horn probably the highest ceiling of the DBs.

Peyton Manning threw more picks than TDs when he entered the league. only time Sam did it....the Jets org was in full blown tank mode. I don’t really put much stock in that last season. I generally look at year 2 for Darnold.