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DaQuan Jones IMO will be the best FA add. And he will be surprising because all Panther fans largely talk about on the DL is Burns, Brown, etc and the young guns.

Darnold and Horn <decent size gap> everyone else

if just looking at 2021 in a vacuum? Robbie Anderson is a 12M cap hit. Robbie Anderson's cap hit is > Moore, Darnold, Thomas, Moore, Marshall, Zyastra combined. Greater cap hit than basically every WR and TE on the roster added together.

Well, I mean Trevor and Urban are both in Jacksonville because the Jags have sucked. So yeah, they aren’t making the playoffs this year because of a talent issue. And I think Urban will suck as a NFL HC. just seems situational is all. Rookie HC and Trevor landed both on a roster like Tampa? I wouldn’t care if it never happened before. I’d give them decent odds.

I haven't read nor care to read your entire back and forth with frank. and yes, I shared my opinion that I think posters have a legit argument when saying they wish the team would invest more in the OL.

great point. and if you are Moton's people....you gotta be playing that hard. You can't pay my guy RT money when we both know you are going to want to play him at LT.

You skewing that though IMO. I'm literally talking about investing via the draft. Rhule has had two. And yeah, the pros literally assess and sort the talent out. It's why guys go in the 1st vs 7th vs undrafted. Drafting Trevor #1 overall is much different investment than taking a QB in round 7. Trevor is a massive investment. The 7th rounder is a camp body. Then there is everything intbeween. Now, once that wave of players goes to the NFL and proves what they can do....draft position does go out the window. They are NFL players. But Rhule hasn't invested heavily there either. Those guys get sorted out by the pros largely too. FA investments aren't all viewed the same either. Bandaids. Bodies. Short term, long term investments. I mean, Matt Rhule simply hasn't invested heavily in the OL to date. I think most would have thought we would have done more given the nature of the OL he inherited (plus the nature of his QB spot).

IMO, he currently is not on a great schedule/pace to have a long career. He lead the league in touches in 2019. And just happened to struggle to stay healthy the next year. And Rhule and Brady had him getting the same rate of touches when he was on the field in 2020. we need to not lean on him so hard as we build. I mean, if we aren't in win now mode and that is 4 years down the road......we need to dial it way back.

RBs are weird with me. Always have been. CMC is kids favorite player. CMC is awesome. But he is a win now asset. So Rhule better get busy for him to have any real worth to us.

really two careers. Pre and post Tommy Jone. Tommy Jone did more than mess up his arm. He lost his moxxy too IMO. 2003 was every bit as fun as 2015 though. Probably more so given the nature of how we won. Cardiac Cat aspect.

To some extent. Absolutely. The professionals confirm that too. But feel free to go find a DE, WR or whatever your preferred position would be from the 6th or 7th round of this past draft......and explain how they are actually the better player than someone that went in round 1 or 2. Joe Horn was a massive investment in our DB position. Phil Hoskins does not represent a big team investment in the DT spot. No shade intended to big Phil.

If we picked up a QB in the 6th round....would that really be investing in the QB position? 6th and 7th rounders aren't investments when you have glaring needs at some of the most important spots on a field. They are late round fliers. and I actually liked the Cornbread pick. But a 6th rounder is a 6th rounder. That's not investing in your OL. Doesn't mean you couldn't hit a lotto ticket. But it is what it is. we have had 2 drafts under Rhule. It would be easy to go redo two fantasy drafts and prioritize the OL. My preference is QB, OL, and DL if building a team from the ground up.

ok, correction to my earlier post. That specific post I responded to didn't have the qualifier of no straight from college rookie HC has won with a rookie QB right away. I just named a rookie HC that won with a rookie. But he didn't come from college. I would say that it is such a nitpicky stat....that it probably loses a lot of it's weight and meaning though. Game is changing. QBs now play earlier and are better early. College schemes are coming into the NFL. And there are just so few examples to compare against of college HCs coming straight into the NFL like Rhule and pairing up with a rookie for it to have that much weight as a stat.

It has pretty much been the consensus that our OL has been weak. That is what Rhule came into. I mean, we haven't really invested a lot in our OL under Rhule. That isn't an attack on BC by saying that. I don't think anyone is saying we shouldn't of drafted him. I guess the argument is we should have invested more in the OL than just BC to date under Rhule.

if it's a 6 year process and we aren't drafting a QB to groom.....we really shouldn't have CMC. It makes him a wasted resource. He is a win now player with a limited shelf life. so I would say there are mixed signals. And it doesn't take 6 years IMO to build a winner in today's NFL.

he delhommed it

Matt Ryan/Mike Smith made the playoffs both as rookie QB/HC. We went to the NFCCG with a rookie HC in his 2nd year...with a 2nd year QB. As far as why Rhule does what he does? I think there could be a conversation about how he was successful in college. And the impact that could be having as he goes about things in the NFL. While he got some Dabo type comparison for motivation and building a program......Rhule's teams in college weren't successful because he had great QB play. A Dabo type probably would come into the NFL and insist on Trevor/Fields/etc because his success was always tied to QB being the most important piece to his success.

the old man Loki just stood out to me. The whole line about his illusion being so great and grand that it fooled Thanos into thinking he killed him. At first, I was like......is that what happened with our Loki. Was that what they were going for? To have us think about that. But then later on he had a line about not wanting to leave despite the option. And then pulled off another super grand illusion where we are to believe he died. So I think Kang could be loosely alluded to. But I think old man Loki will be the guy in the castle/house.

SPOILERS I personally have my eye on old man kermit the frog looking Loki.....still factoring next episode. We didn't get the big payoff in WandaVision. I'm thinking they maintain that here too. We get the Kang debut later in an actual movie. I'm thinking Loki largely just lays out how the the Spider-Man variants will work and are understood and aspects of the multiverse. Plus, it sets up how Loki stays involved with the timeline our MCU based on.

I have my doubts that a TV show will be his debut in the MCU. Nothing to date from the other shows says the TV shows are going that far. We will have to see I guess. Loved the Throg easter egg too lol. But yeah, alligator Loki is pretty awesome.

He played 8 years. We had a top 10 ranked D in 5 of those. 5 of his first 6 years we were a top 10 D.

I know why we are.... the reason there is a PJ Thread....is because Sam Darnold and Will Grier happen to be the the two guys we invested in. So there would be a thread on whatever warm body was on the roster with them. There would be no PJ Walker thread this offseason.....if we invested differently at the top.

I don't like our QB roster. But again, I don't get fixating on PJ Walker when it is brought up. PJ was brought in be a backup. That's it. Nothing more. There is no actual illusion there. And frankly, he was brought in to be 3rd string. The others guys? We invested draft capital in. We invested more of our salary cap in. PJ shouldn't be leading this conversation. The QB problem last year wasn't PJ. It was Teddy and Will being on the roster. Now, swap out Teddy for Darnold. any 3rd string QB is going to be a "problem".....if he is sitting there behind what we are doing with the 1 and 2 spots.

well, realistically, the only reason people really talk about backup QBs .....is because of the problem that exists at the starting spot. yeah, you talk about it if your QB gets hurt. That's gonna happen. But if you are freaking out about PJ Walker in July? Well.....it's really a Sam Darnold conversation. I'd prefer we just focus on fixing the starting QB spot instead of debating how good you think a 2nd or 3rd string QB is.

Okay....but the reason people are talking about PJ Walker is because there are bigger and more important problems. So.....why not just fixate on that. The problem. It's what I wanted to do in the draft. Add starting QB talent/potential. and the NFL is full of guys that aren't good enough to start. Basically every team has PJ Walkers. That's why they are called backups. Which is what PJ is. The problem isn't PJ Walker. The problem is who Matt Rhule keeps designating as his starting QB. PJ is getting heat from those that want to deflect from the real issue IMO.