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dang, corner didn't even have to lay out for it. Stayed on his feet after pancaking him and then turned to try to make a play.

listen Bill Nye, I'm tired of worrying about muffed punts! What does science say about my blood pressure. I'm prioritizing my personal health here. * but your facts are noted

89 was still our primary punt returner in 2005 (the triple crown season) and when he wasn't returning punts our starting CB Gamble was.

Crunch time the Ravens would put Hall of Famer Ed Reed back there.

better players than them have returned kicks too. it's football. I have never really bought into the it's too big of a risk thing. CMC literally plays every snap already. I don't think playing certain downs where he mostly likely fair catches a ball is actually greater risk in the grand scheme of things. Just as likely to have his knees destroyed in a pile up IMO than hurt on kick returns.

I said he was a niche player and we only used him that way one season.....which was 2020. You throw Samuel on the outside and ask him to do what Robby Anderson does and he will be weak. Because he isn't a pure WR. Playing from the slot and backfield is his niche. CMC being hurt and the addition of Robbie allowed him to fall into the role he was always meant for.

Curtis Samuel is a bad dude. He just has a special niche you need to use him in. Which Carolina only did one season. We were always a bad landing spot IMO for him given CMC was also coming here IMO.

I agree with this. It’s like moving Captain from nickel to outside or Samuel’s from slot to the outside. They were good players and frankly drafted to be a certain player. Then some years because we neglected other spots we move them out of their ideal spots….and it just makes them lesser players. We just need to go get a LT.

Apparently this kid looked good. Also the #1 rookie jersey over Lawrence, Wilson and Lance. So I guess some people are hype.

Modern day NFL. Spot fouls for breathing hard on players. Horn isn’t going to be allowed to do what he did in college though. And it is significantly more costly in the NFL to commit PI than college. He has has the tools to be elite. But he is going to have some growing pains most likely. Which is fine.

Love this pick. That 88 going to take my brain awhile though....

I wanna see them DJ Moore one on ones. He is the test of where Horn really is IMO. He is our most physical WR and best all around.

Joe Horn is not old enough...for the ref to keep that flag in his pocket

yeah, my 10 year old kid isn't itching to watch a movie that came out nearly 20 years ago. if you brought up Pirates of the Caribbean he might say something like....oh, I think I saw something about that on Disney+. But I haven't watched it. You ask him who Johnny Depp is? He has no clue. No reason for him to. Johnny Depp currently is some washed up looking homeless man present day that isn't relevant. No one is talking about the Pirates movies. It isn't a thing for his age bracket. You allow him screen time to watch what he wants? He will ask to get on you tube and watch someone else play a video game. Maybe Dude Perfect or something. I don't get it. But that's what it is.

My son doesn't know who the fug Johnny Depp, Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise are. Those are nobodies. He is a 10 year old. He knows who Steph Curry is. That's a celebrity to a 10 year old boy. That's why he wants to wear Steph gear. Odd that multiple companies from the NBA to Under Armor produce Steph merch to sale to the masses if he isn't a "celebrity". And no matter who comes along later you likely will never convince him anyone can ever be a greater shooter. That's how it works. And Robert Downey Jr is nothing more than Iron Man to him. That's it. And that's all he likely will ever be to him.

Ok, but it seems like a weird bar. That only megastars can be considered celebrities. Then Tyson Fury, Luca Doncic, Mike Trout, Logan Paul, Jojo aren’t celebrities. I mean fuging Blippi can be called a celebrity. It’s a niche. Like most. and Floyd isn’t even Mike Tyson on your scale. Everyone knows Mike Tyson. Floyd isn’t even that in reality.

The Paul brothers are a household name for certain age brackets. Outside of Oprah, Micheal Jordan, territory…most celebrities are a niche thing. Tyson Fury and Deonte Wilder could walk up to the majority of Americans and they wouldn’t be recognized.

I don't consider Will Grier's brother a celebrity. I do consider some internet personalities celebrities. That Floyd fight only existed because The Paul brothers are celebrities. The internet isn't a fad. Unless TV was a fad. I mean there are a tons of actors who aren't celebrities. Same applies to the internet. The upcoming generations dictate celebrity and it's evolution IMO.

Celebrity evolves just as entertainment does. The Paul brothers are defiantly celebrities. The one just duped a bunch of people with a Mayweather "fight". I mean, that fight only happens because he is a mega celebrity in the current world we live in. Old farts not knowing or caring doesn't change the fact he is a celebrity. Younger generation could give 2 shits about some old celebrities too.

I am sticking with Rhule and company have managed the QB position poorly from day 1. Feel free to view it otherwise. And I’m sticking with they know it too.

If we would have had the 3 spot we would have been guaranteed a QB. When we acquired Darnold there was talk all 5 could be gone.

like Panther PR post draft where everything that happened was exactly what they wanted and everyone agreed on it all. despite following the NFL for decades and knowing that stuff rarely plays out like that. Teams want different guys. Some people win. Some lose in those battles. Everyone is rarely happy. Joe Brady ain’t looking at the last 2 drafts and going…yep, masterful work. Nor are a lot of other guys. Is Phil Snow? Maybe. I would be if I were him.

Pretty much all of that I still agree with. That’s what we did in large part. In that moment. You are taking one post in a vaccum and choosing to ignore the rest of the conversation. And people in the building were lobbying for Fields. Time goes on and you adjust. what you leave out are all the other posts. Which talks about how Rhule and company look if they make the right call (IMO) of drafting the QB who ended up falling in their laps….it draws even more attention to the poor job they have done with the QB spot. They discover Teddy has almost no value. He is going to be a massive black eye. Because Fields would have fallen in their laps….and everyone would be looking at them paying millions for Teddy to play in Den and the draft picks pointlessly given up for Sam in hindsight. And now you have to actually bring in another real vet to work with Fields. And I firmly believe passing on Fields as just the FO trying to save a little face in the short term. and my take/fear of them passing on Fields and taking Horn the week of the draft was exactly what happened. They are called opinions and views. People can have them. I think Michael Jordan was actually punished by the NBA when he “took a year off” to play baseball in his prime and immediately came back to win 3 more rings. Bulls and NBA PR didn’t say that. They would say no way. That’s crazy. Well, organizations only tell the public what they want to tell them…and the league and world back then was different. You seem to struggle with people parading their own hot takes on sports….as testifying in court on some matter of importance. It’s not that serious. And half the fun of it.

maybe you have me confused. I wanted Fields. I thought that was the correct call if he fell despite them already being forced into Darnold. That’s different. and you can go find my posts talking about my fear of the newly acquired Seattle GM drafting Horn. Which he did. And that remains not a diss of Horn himself. It remains a diss of the Rhule era which has handled the QB scenario poorly under Rhule. Which wasn’t a thought that came about post draft.

Just because you don’t endorse it doesn’t make it a discredited view. and it in real time it was discussed. Back when I supported going after Sam Darnold because of the corner Carolina was backed into (they made it impossible to keep Teddy and the talk at that time was all QBs could be gone).