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We literally had all these clues on Sam. He has been the worst starter in the NFL the last 3 years coming to this season. Everything he is doing horribly…..he displayed to the world over the last 3 NFL seasons before he got here. And he had the issues coming out of college too before the Jets touched him. He has been the same guy everywhere he has ever played. just like with Teddy, some hoped he could be different than what he had proven to be for years and years. But yeah, we clearly had the clues on Sam.

If you added KB to your team today. You aren’t adding first round talent. His draft status is irrelevant now. You are adding a bad WR. and when we move on from Sam and someone throws him on a roster as a backup. They won’t be adding top 5 talent to their team. They will just be adding a bad QB. Revisionist history? I’ve been calling Sam what he is since they put on pads in Spartanburg. I did the same with Teddy too. We weren’t getting unknowns. Both came here and were exactly what they showed the world for years. I was cool with adding Darnold for cheap to tinker with and see if there was anything there to be fixed. Not be the guy.

Favre has 4 pass attempts in Atlanta. That’s not the same as bringing in Sam Darnold.

the extreme was merely used to highlight the point. Same point one more time. say a team needs a WR today and signs Kelvin Benjamin. You don’t get to now call him 1st round quality WR addition. His draft position was thrown out long ago. That’s not what he is. Sam Darnold was the worst starting QB in the NFL over the last 3 seasons. That’s what we added. Not a top 5 talent. Draft status becomes irrelevant once you put years in.

Tom Brady is a 6th round quality QB. Darnold stunk up the league for 3 years. Where guys were drafted becomes irrelevant pretty quick. We signed the worst starting QB to be our guy….and the results have played out extremely predictably.

Just to be more specific, Clemson beat the Gamecocks with a QB on a torn ACL. never pass up a chance to rub in how bad the Gamecocks are.

Well he isn’t paying them all off all off to go away. Too many accusations exist. So it will go the distance with some. and he will be suspended for games in 2022 as a results of his actions. Because even if he isn’t guilty of the worst of the accusations….he will be punished for his really dumb behavior. He isn’t playing right now. Those don’t count as suspension games. Not sure where you got 25 from. He might not get 16 in 2022 but he will get a good amount. So regardless, it would make his first full season 2023. And you might hate the fact you have to pull for a perv when all the dust settles. Too much smoke to think they are all BS. Some legit massage therapist are clearly mixed in. just not worth the risk. And it sets up to potentially be the dumbest move in franchise history…. but Watson can ball. As I said, I’m a massive Clemson homer and was my favorite player. Not just at Clemson but overall.

I didn't say he was talking scared. That's you. I said he knows he is about to go into damage control in the near future for this clusterfug of a season. It's what NFL coaches do. And I am pretty sure being paid lots of money has never stopped coaches from trying to protect their image and rep when things get...bad by throwing folks under the bus for the mess that was made by them.

anywho. I said my piece on not wanting Watson as the risk is too great. now, I got some never lost gifs to post about PJ Walker to get to.

I agree they they don't presently have any intention of it. Because Hou did the job. Nice and easy for them. you trade him? a team wants to play him? non-football media will flip their lid. It would a media storm. NFL hates horrible press. Imagine a team attempting that having that circus dominating NFL news. NFL will promptly place him on the exempt list. The NFL doesn't need Watson.

what in the world leads you to believe the commisioner won't put him on the exempt list this year if a team attempted to play him? No need for the exempt list when Hou did it themselves. and yeah, same applies next year. That's when the court stuff is going to come up. Once it all settles? He will get suspended next year. Even if not guility of the worst accusations? He is getting suspended for his actions. How many games? Can't predict that. That makes his first full season 2023.

tell me how he plays? Only reason he isn't on the exempt list right now is because the Texans have done it for the NFL. He isn't going to play this year if traded. And next year is when all the court stuff goes down. And then eventually the NFL will suspend him for games. And we can't even guess how many that will be because we don't know what the current eviroment will dictate it to be. This is a long way from being over for Watson. So yeah, you are trading away all that draft capital to finally get a full season from him in 2023. And then you don't even know if you would want to pull for him and be the face of your team when the time comes..... just not worth it. But yeah, he can ball.

I'm one of the biggest Clemson homers on the board and folks poo emojing me being out on giving up the farm for a guy that likely won't be able to play in 2021 or 2022. Then in 2023 you are forced to be a Steeler fan defending Big Ben's bathroom incident? Yeah, here is another post for you to poo. This would be our franchise continuing to make worse and worse and worse mistakes in regards to the QB spot under Tepper. The risk/reward simply isn't worth the draft captial. Sam Darnold and a disappointing season/Rhule era is blinding folks.

Football is football. A season like this will demand sacrifces to the football gods. Tepper having his back won't change that. That's just the NFL. Tepper is going to want butts in the seat. Merch off the shelves. Tepper needs the masses to believe a successful rebuild is in the works. Just life of the NFL. If things stay the current course, people will lose jobs. Fair or unfair, blame is going to be placed on select folks as they exit.

Rhule knows he is about to have to go into mitgation mode in the near future for the clusterfug of a season he is about to have. That's what is becoming clear by the why he is tweaking his talking. He is going to have to start throwing people under the bus for his own sake. That's what NFL guys do. What bodies and when will be the question. Which story for the blame will make him look the least bad.

but my arguement isn't about being better than Sam. If the season is lost, let's go ahead and prevent Rhule from bringing back more mistakes. If Rhule starts PJ and he is as bad as you say? Well, it prevents from bringing him back his Temple guy as backup for a 3rd straight season. Why not clear out as much pointless weight in a pointless season as possible? if we never start PJ, Rhule has the argument that PJ did his job the one time when called upon to actually do it. The Lions game. Why not take it away from him.

Narrator of the Matt Rhule documentary in a couple years "but he never let them know"

well, if Rhule starts PJ.... then it actually has the question answered. If he sucks super bad? Well, it will be out there for everyone to see. Then he can't be the backup in year 3. but Rhule can play the same card everyone else in the PJ camp does with PJ if he doesn't start him. Well, when they did start him, the Panthers found a way to win. That's his job. His job isn't superman duty when getting your tails kicked.

I have no problem with that rational.

you start evaluting who should even be on the roster and be taking up space. PJ is our backup for the 2nd year and row. Well, go find out if he actually should have the backup gig. Get that answered for the world to see. You started him once in place an injured QB and manged to win with him that time. Pretend Sam is hurt from sucking so bad and see if you can manage to find a way to win an actual game with him. Give him two starts. If you can't? Well, don't keep bringing him back as backup anymore. Now everyone knows you need a starter and a backup. then take a look at the practice squad kid at some point. See if you should even have them there. See if he shows some potential. What's the point of starting Sam? There is no point. At least if you look at the others....there is no more pretending/assuming if they should be back either. It just gets it all answered.

I think the right move is to start PJ if this current trend continues. A prepped start for a game is just different than late game pass only duty while down. And in PJ's start.....we moved the ball. We aren't moving the ball. At all. You could break out the dang triple option for all I care. I am under no illusion PJ is good or will be. But to say he can't at least move the ball better than what Sam has done the last 3 starts minus 1 quarter? I don't buy. Bad QBs that shouldn't start can move the ball better than what Sam has done the past 3 games with Sam (minus the Vikings 4th q). So I am not firmly back where I was last year. If we are going to lose, I think PJ would be more entertaining. So that is what I think we should do. And he is aggressive enough downfield it would at least be entertaining. Good football isn't on table.

I think the Jets are the only team that ever actually expressed interest in Matt Rhule. Rest was just media talk. We seem to be in this weird space when it comes to the Jets. We need to coach they wanted. We need their QB. Their WR. Maybe whatever the Jets think, have touched, etc......we should stay far far away from.

moments after the game he quickly made it known Darnold was starting next week and every game after that. That it wasn't an actual benching. He didn't want people to think that. Sounds pretty coddling to me.

you can't have a horrible run blocking OL....and then want to play smash mouth football. All you do is what you have done over and over. Have zero offense. Hang your D out to try quarter after quarter. you are forced into a pass/run balance Matt beause your team can't do either well. So you need whatever edge not being preditable has. And you passed on almost every 3rd and short you saw Sunday. 3rd and 2 over and over and you kept passing on it.