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is it a coincidence we have gone down the gutter after Tepper threw Keep Pounding in the trash can? I think not.

Richardson forced to sell team. Tepper buys and immediately starts talking about putting that in the past and changing the culture. Tepper watches Matt Rhule's QBs and reminds himself you have to be flexible with your plans.

Alternate title "When the Pounding stopped"

I mean, I probably watched it. But Delhomme just hadn't played enough football for me to have a take on him. Teddy and Sam played a ton of football in the NFL and I watched them both in college and the pros over the years. Easier to have a take on them vs Jake.

I think the highest odds are Watson not being traded. This keeps looking like groundhog day. Some talk being kicked around by the media.

Sunday with a clean and time pocket...he threw deep into a sea of 5 Giants and player and was intercepted by our old friend. The checkdown wideopen for a big gain. Sam is just bad. Find the greatest OC in NFL history and let me play QB for him. Not a single play would work. I got an Uncle Rico arm. Trust me. It would be a clown show. You can't put a QB like Sam Darnold on the field and think you have any clue what an OC is capable of or how good he is. Brady already has a mountain to climb with the OL. You can't give an OC both those problems. Panthers set him up to fail. It's not a Joe Brady issue. You frankly can't evalute him at all. I remain anti-scapegoat. In football and in the real world life. Firing Joe Brady isn't the answer. But I do concede he will be one of the first 3 that go.

Sam Darnold paired with this OL That's the primary issue. You can't scheme up a successful O with that over the course of a season. again, go back and look at simliar Sean McDermott as an example of a coordinator scapegoated. Talented young coordinator scapegoated because an org didn't put talent on the field for him to do his job. Problem wasn't McDermott in Philly. It was talent. Problem here is Sam Darnold and our OL. Not the guy drawing up an O that everyone has had career years in. and again, people have taken one comment and comically taken it out of context. See Luke Kuechly. Then find a game he played against whoever you deem was the best OC we faced. Luke is calling out the majority of if the plays by whatever OC you think is great. It's the NFL. The opponents sometimes knows what you are doing....and you have to win the route. And your QB has to find the guy that one the route despite the oppoennt knowing what is coming.

just sitting here looking forward to seeing who the next NY Jet castoff is that we randomly just give a ton a cash to.

it was impossible to call a good game with Jimmy Clausen. Name an OC. His gameplan, his playcalls would collective look horrible. Jimmy would make it so. That's Sam. Sam is beyond horrible. Joe Brady is a scapegoat. Everyone at LSU had career years in his O. And last year, everyone had career years in his O. Teddy not being good enough doesn't change the fact Brady brought out the most in him. and the OL is so horrific. Joe Brady simply can't call basic plays. He can't call the correct play in reality in short yardage. Because the O can't get the most simplistic done against anyone. We saw it in preseason. Just line them up and see if they can run a basic run against a defense that knows it comng. Think every starter got blown up on that goalline play. That told you what you needed to know about the season. Sean McDermott was once a wonder kid. Then the fans said he sucked and the coach fired him a defense being was horrible. He was scapegoated. The Eagles simply had no defensive talent. and you can't scheme around massive talent issues in the NFL at certain spots.

Joe Burrow and the LSU guys all had career years in college. Teddy had a career year. DJ, Robbie, Curtis all did too. maybe Sam Darnold is just really bad.

Yes, QBs that sucked horrifically have occasionally gone on to play elsewhere and find success. But you ignore the fact that that your examples needed years to improve to get a that second chance they earned. Then you alter your point of saying well if Denver took a risk on Peyton Manning’s injury then it’s the same thing as taking a risk on Sam Darnold. Acknowledging the long journey Doug and Steve had for the second chance to occur….isn’t moving the goalpost. It’s simply pointing out a new team didn’t take a chance on them right after being horrible for years. They earned the chance for the opportunity. That meant time away to actually improve.

I choose to believe the Saints acquiring Brees isn’t similar to us making Sam the man.

Brees went to the Pro Bowl and playoffs with the Chargers.

none of those guys stunk the league up for 3 straight years…and were then picked up to be the man right away somewhere else though.

Huh? no team snatched any of them up after they busted hard with the team that drafted them….and then attempted to make them the man immediately after. You said the second chances now happen quicker….unlike in the era of all the other guys that also weren’t comps.

Trubisky? Rosen? Bortles? Gabbert? Locker? EJ? Ponder? I mean what we attempted with Sam is unique. No one is snatching up the really bad busted QBs and rolling with them right away. Seems like the path Young and them took still is in play. Got to earn your way back to a chance. making Sam the dude seems like a pretty self inflicted mistake that a front office shouldn’t make IMO. Got no issue with bringing a someone like him in to an org. But you have to actually see if you can fix them first.

It took Doug and Young years to get a second shot. That’s what should of happened to Sam. See if he could be fixed. Time. And then he be given an opportunity to play again…if he deserved and earned it. Sam should of been on the Mitch Trubisky path. That’s the normal path for a bad QB like Sam. there isn’t a example of a QB as bad as Sam….just playing his way out of it with a new uniform.

I knew nothing about Jake Delhomme. Never saw him play before he suited up for us.

they just aren’t comparable scenarios. I mean Favre and Sam just aren’t comps. Not the situations at all. Again, Favre had a total of 4 pass attempts. Packers didn’t take in a guy who stunk up the league for 3 straight years to be the dude. and Young and Williams weren’t picked up to be the man either after being train wrecks for 3 years. Young went and sat behind what was the GOAT for almost half a decade before shot #2. Doug left the NFL entirely and was eventually brought back in as a backup.

We literally had all these clues on Sam. He has been the worst starter in the NFL the last 3 years coming to this season. Everything he is doing horribly…..he displayed to the world over the last 3 NFL seasons before he got here. And he had the issues coming out of college too before the Jets touched him. He has been the same guy everywhere he has ever played. just like with Teddy, some hoped he could be different than what he had proven to be for years and years. But yeah, we clearly had the clues on Sam.

If you added KB to your team today. You aren’t adding first round talent. His draft status is irrelevant now. You are adding a bad WR. and when we move on from Sam and someone throws him on a roster as a backup. They won’t be adding top 5 talent to their team. They will just be adding a bad QB. Revisionist history? I’ve been calling Sam what he is since they put on pads in Spartanburg. I did the same with Teddy too. We weren’t getting unknowns. Both came here and were exactly what they showed the world for years. I was cool with adding Darnold for cheap to tinker with and see if there was anything there to be fixed. Not be the guy.

Favre has 4 pass attempts in Atlanta. That’s not the same as bringing in Sam Darnold.

the extreme was merely used to highlight the point. Same point one more time. say a team needs a WR today and signs Kelvin Benjamin. You don’t get to now call him 1st round quality WR addition. His draft position was thrown out long ago. That’s not what he is. Sam Darnold was the worst starting QB in the NFL over the last 3 seasons. That’s what we added. Not a top 5 talent. Draft status becomes irrelevant once you put years in.

Tom Brady is a 6th round quality QB. Darnold stunk up the league for 3 years. Where guys were drafted becomes irrelevant pretty quick. We signed the worst starting QB to be our guy….and the results have played out extremely predictably.

Just to be more specific, Clemson beat the Gamecocks with a QB on a torn ACL. never pass up a chance to rub in how bad the Gamecocks are.