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I think that was Sam’s first completion 10 yards downfield on the day. Wrong team but baby steps

Should of started him. Give him a full game to find some sort of a groove and what might work with him. you can’t just trot PJ out down by multiple scores and only ask him to pass. He isn’t good enough to be that

This is last year but on steroids. if we are going to lose, I’d rather lose attempting haymakers and big plays. Just put in another QB. Clausen ball is horrible to watch.

A win is asking too much of the D. They already are responsible for both FGs. the new Rhule O where he finally admits he doesn’t have the talent….just lets a D hammer the O. Falcons just weren’t good enough to do it.

Mac “Vontaze Burfict” Jones with that ankle roll

Hell yeah Gilmore! What an awesome player.

Matt Rhule told us before the Atlanta game that it is time to accept they will just have to run and play D. they are too scared too let Sam even attempt a balanced O at this point.

they like to do the opposite of what you should do. should of been Hubbard two runs and CMC on 3rd if you are going with this weak game plan vs Bill

Someone said Sam Darnold has been asked to be Drew Brees. It was a response to that absurdity.

Got me. I want my professional sports team to be able to at least field the most basic bare bones level QB play…and we would have a winning record right now if we had. instead we have the worst QB in the NFL and people still performing mental gymnastics that it isn’t that.

Gotta think Gilmore spent a lot of time with Phil Snow this week.

you don’t think Teddy wins the Philly and NY game? Philly was handed to the QB on a silver platter. That setup to be the easiest W on the year. Teddy wins all the games Sam did. Plus the Philly and NY games. Teddy losses Dallas and the Vikings games because those are the games Teddy can’t play in.

Vikings and Cowboys would be the two losses. 6-2 with Teddy. Teddy wins the the Philly and NY game. That’s 6-2. Philly game was the most gift wrapped game on a season to the QB.

We would be 6-2 with a very average yet efficient QB. Sam isn’t being asked to be Brees. Sam can’t do basics which ends up putting more and more stress on the O (thus himself) We would be 6-2 with freaking Teddy.

Baker is still on a rookie deal. He actually isn’t being paid to be great right now. OBJ is paid to be great. Which he isn’t. He isn’t a great NFL WR. He is just a talented guy. and if it is all a Baker problem, why is it just OBJ that stands out as not working? Goes back IMO to why he ended up Clev to begin with

I don’t think the argument is Baker doesn’t deserve legit criticism. but that isn’t what 89 was actually doing. Again, 89 was talking about OBJ. And if you want to talk about why OBJ was in Clev to begin with and is now out…..well that largely is a OBJ discussion. Baker a side note. But crickets from 89 actually on OBJ.

Sam Darnold isn’t good at playing QB though. There is a long long long list of guys with better raw physical talent than Tom Brady and they can’t even occupy a practice squad spot. The want of going to a run offense is because Sam isn’t a starting caliber QB. That isn’t much of a debate anymore. Mac Jones wouldn’t die. He processes things quick and can get the ball out. His physical tools give him a low ceiling. But he already is a better QB than Sam. That helps a OL. Bad QBs like Sam make OLs worse.

Oh yeah, forget to add. Jets finished as the #7 D that year too. they most defiantly weren’t poo top to bottom in 2019. People just breaking their backs and rewriting history to defend Sam

2019 was the last season the Jets attempted to win with Sam. And no, it wasn’t poo top to bottom. They weren’t the Cowboys but they weren’t the 2020 Jets either. They went 7-9. They actually were trying in 2019. Bell was still a 1300 all around yard RB. They had Crowder, Robbie, and D. Thomas as the top 3 WRs. That’s not a great cast but most defiantly wasn’t poo. They gave up on Sam after that.

Agreed. Reports were it was a legit injury though. And that was essentially the hit.

Sam’s worst game was in 2019. His best season. And that 2019 offensive group around him wasn’t horrific. and yeah, and injured throwing shoulder Sam that hasn’t practiced thrown out vs Bill? I’d take Clausen over that. If you take most of the pass out and can simply add PJ to the running game…that makes him better than Sam this week. If Sam is a pass only QB with a hurt throwing arm that can’t be run? That’s not better than a properly game planned PJ.

he has a shoulder injury to his throwing arm. Matt Rhule shouldn’t coach in the NFL if he does that with his players.

I wouldn’t even put that Giants game in a top 10

Have you watched Sam of late here? or his games vs Bill? yeah, I’d say him being hurt and not practicing matters. You gonna run Sam with with an injured throwing shoulder? Sam sucks. PJ sucks. Rhule sucks. The play is PJ. And all 3 should be exposed for what they all are. Not just Sam.

Sam didn’t practice all week and has an injured throwing shoulder. Not sure how you start Sam vs Bill with that.