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You can’t trot Sam out on the field week 1. Well, not if you plan on having fans at BOA next season.

well, if you use the NFL as the standard.... it wouldn't be nuts.

Cousins is definately more polished. It's the risk adverse issue though. And risk adverse QBs often look much better on paper than gunslinger types. But his career in Minny also has featured his teammates routintely blasting him during games for not throwing the ball. Because Cousins too often won't make attempt the play that needs to be made. Cousins is 28-26-1 in Minny with 1 playoff win. Jake was 53-37 in Carolina with 5 playoffs win. and I don't think the arguement holds that the difference there is simply Jake having sigfnicantly better talent. They are just polar opposite QBs. And the stats will always reflect that IMO.

well, put Rhule aside. Let's say we did happen to fire someone who you agree was clearly a mistake. What is the quicket you would endorse just admitting that and moving on.

3rd. He isn't leapfrogging Cam and Jake just by walking in the door. Cousins false into that risk adverse tier of QB. While he might be more polished than Jake, the willingness to put the ball up matters. And Jake's teams had more overall success in Carolina vs Cousin's Minny teams because of that.

well, that technically is a different argument IMO than what is suggested by just saying Ohio St QBs. Given the specific narrative around the guys that played there of late. I don't disagree with what you are saying entirely. Bama is a great example. The talent disparity between Bama and even other top programs is often big. I was down w/ Fields largely because he had Brent Venebles beat twice on the big stage despite only getting one win. There really are only a handful of games that mean much with the mega programs.

The actual issue was Urban Meyer QBs. Those are the ones that set a trend. Consistent trend of those in his offense not working out. From FL to Ohio St. but Fields didn't play for Urban and in his offense. That's why the narrative was irrelevant.

current trajectory IMO would still have to change to get that year 3. current trajectory is downward. Which means more bad comes with that. NFL players flex and demand more and more as the years go on. If the current trejectory maintains, you got to think you will start seeing and hearing about guys talking. Wanting to bounce to greener pastures. You can't lose the team and get a 3rd year. These guys have short windows to play this game.

it's the NFL. You don't get long. Every HC we have had got us into the playoffs by year 3. Nothing suggests Rhule has us on that track. The only one who didn't was shown the door.

Big picture, QB all day. There are a lot of great offenses and teams that have and have had bad OL play. QB is the end all be all.

if you want to be left alone and collect a check it might be nice. Apparently Matt Rhule had his first real conversation with Sam Darnold just the other week.

I saw Tony Pike last night at Target and told me he just laughted when he saw the caller ID and didn't pick up.

If you make a massive mistake....sticking with it isn't good practice either though. Tepper should of never hired Rhule. That was the mistake. He didn't have the resume.

I don't think there is any evidence they had his picture up and then replaced it with the same picture but with him cropped out. I mean, Tepper didn't show Cam the respect he deserved given what he did here. No doubt about that. If we parted with Cam....it should of had a Jake Delhomme feel to it. And Tepper and company should rightfully be hammered for the way the deal with people. Carolina has basically been really bad about that post Fox era.

moved to NFL section

why would any NFL team go into week 1 next year with Sam Darnold as your starter?

first bad performace?

well, we just need some basic answers. Sam Darnold knew specifics about his shoudler injury going into that game. What were those.

They sent him out there with an injured shoulder. We know that at least. Is Matt Rhule having a presser today? Hope reporters press him on answers. Oddly enough, if someone is going to ask right questions....it shockingly will be.....Joe Person lol. He has actually gotten better of late. I know you aren't suppose to say that though.

Wasn’t Derek Anderson paired with Josh Allen?

Well lots of guys have injuries. And then a team can reach a point where they simply use that to make them disappear because they need to. I mean a totally broken and torn up shoulder and a slight hairline fracture that ain’t a big deal can read the same way on paper

We don’t actually know what that means for Darnold. Cam technically played with a broken back.

Well, it matters if it causes Tepper to stick with a mistake simply because he drastically overpaid.

call up Timmy Te bow at this point. Just wildcat it with him and let him call himself a QB to feel good