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disagree. It isn’t just the OL and the proof IMO has been documented throughout the season. A lot of it isn’t all the OL. Sam’s first couple games he looked decent. PJ’s first game he looked decent vs AZ. Cam first game and his first start vs Washington he looked decent. That’s a consistent trend. The reason for that is there was uncertainty about what we were doing on offense. The result? Offensive line wasn’t an issue. And there was offense. Without or without CMC. once opposing coaches know what this horrible staff is doing? They lay the smack down on our offense and our staff can’t do anything about it. They aren’t a NFL coaching staff and opposing coaches are exploiting it. Another example of that is how things get worse every week after half time. We are out coached consistently. It’s why our O disappears as the game gets going. But exists initially out is the gate most weeks. If it was just all an OL issue….the O production would be more consistent in terms of not having it.

yes the OL sucks. The one Matt Rhule put together. But Sam sucks. Which makes the OL look even worse. and our offensive gameplans and playcalls suck. Which makes the OL look even worse.

Correct. Cam made us nationally relevant in a manner we never had been…and brought folks outside of the Carolinas in.

OL and the OL coach are basically the only scapegoats he has on the table. OL coach isn’t a Rhule guy. OC is his best friend. Sam is his handpicked QB. OL coach getting fired. Rhule will say it wasn’t the poor play Sam would be excellent and so would our pass game lol

Me thinking Matt Rhule is a joke….is irrelevant to this beat reporters who cover the Panthers every day know what more than guys who randomly get assigned our game to do the announcing on TV

You are just reaching because you wish to sell a narrative. No, random Fox announcers don’t have the access and connections of guys who cover a team all season and for years. It’s why Joe Person has 20 sources inside Carolina saying it…..and the Fox announcers are just bullshitting around. And we know for a fact random announcers every week don’t have the same type insight vs a Joe Person…..because they have shown for years to not have a clue about such players and our team

95% of the Panthers that are out there are playing for their future. They need to put good individual tape out there for next season to stay employed, get a new deal with someone, etc. You can thing Rhule is a clown and have no faith in him….and still play hard. Most aren’t setup like CMC

So who would know? random announcers that don’t follow or cover the team or reporters that are talking to folks in Carolina. Never listen to announcers. They are just selling a narrative for whatever reason that runs contrast to everything going on

4 seasons in the NFL and he never had a losing record as a HC. he lost his job because he is batshit crazy.

Don’t see it happening. While Jim has proven he can coach in the NFL….hard to follow up a Rhule shitshow by bringing in a a guy who has a history of being a problematic HC. Harbaugh has massive red flags. You part with a winning HC for very few reasons.

It can always get worse We keep talking about it acquiring Watson…..yet we already know Watson refused to waive his trade clause for us. Now I guess that could change but it is safe to say he doesn’t actually want to be here.

Exactly. I know some hyper successful people….and they are frankly idiots in many aspects of life. Especially some very common sense aspects. Just clueless.

Eh, most know Cam is what he is at this point. in large part, the unspoken deal with bringing Cam back was to let us have a proper finish to his time here. It was to appease us and let us ride out a disappointing season with Cam because of Rhule’s clusterfug. The miracle playoff finish wasn’t the primary reason Tepper brought back Cam. and they didn’t follow through with that deal. Because as soon as Rhule could squash what Tepper did, he did.

Letting a lame duck HC draft a top 10 QB is pointless. New HC should be able to pick his own QB if tasked with building up a team. If Rhule stays, GM should control the pick and it should be on the line.

Some truth here. If he walked after his injury his odds would be better. Last couple years have been bad for the story on Cam.

Person has been good all year. But he has been really good since camp doing his job and since leaving the Observer.

“Like, that’s not real fans, you know what I’m saying?” “For the culture that we’re building, we don’t want no fake fans. We want diehard, loyal fans that’s gonna ride or die for us. Simple as that.”

I don't think you really would want to be that curious. Some things when seen, can't be unseen. I don't know what the worst of PH is....but I don't want to find out.

Rivera is a different breed than Rhule. heck, there was a clip of Ron defending guys this past week after that fight on the sideline and it had a big reaction (positive). In reality, with Ron....I think a lot more matters than just football and his paycheck. And I think we all want to work for someone that sees that. I've been fooled before. But it remains a pretty safe bet Ron is just a really great person.

Rhule's contract is small pototoes.....given David Tepper is trying to maximize the return in a NFL team and a MLS team. And if Rhule makes Tepper look incomptetent, which he does, that is going to impact the return he can make on BOTH his professional sport teams. and NFL contracts have offset clauses. So unless you are arguing Matt Rhule is going to retire for the next 5 years and not coach......Carolina isn't going to be on the hook for his entire contract anyway. I won't pay a nickel to watch Matt Rhule and Jimmy G waste our time in 2022. I won't be alone. And I won't support his MLS team because of that. And I would have if Tepper gave me a reason to support him. I alone am meaningless. But I won't be alone in that.

Details how Tepper nor the players believe in Rhule. The only counter to that is a statement by Matt Rhule....that Rhule says people totally believe in him lol.

HOF shouldn't just be about what the stats add up on a sheet at the end of the day. for example this post to a degree....suggests Vinny T and Russell Wilson are comparable. They aren't. Vinny T simply played in the NFL for 21 years. 21 years. London Fletcher isn't a better LB and more deserving of the HOF than Luke Kuechly. Cam was a uniquely dominant player. One that stands alone in the modern NFL. That's why he has a HOF arguement.

I always use Dabo as the example. A legit great college coach. But he is a recruiter, culture guy, and motivator. And his formula wouldn't work on NFL players. At all. Would be silly to attempt it. I don't think it is so much about seeing through what Dabo does. But a 18 year old kid and 28 year old family man see everything different in life. Because life is drastically different for the two. In pros you basically just need a respected locker room guy ...who is a great in the moment game manager that excels at gameplanning week to week (X and Os).

He signed an extention with Baylor and like 3 months later he signs a deal with Carolina.

Matt Rhue is not a leader of men