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Those are all scramblers though. That isn’t Cam. Cam is just in a weird category all alone. There just isn’t a comp IMO to Cam. Makes him hard to judge vs others. and there probably won’t be another. His TD record probably will be there for eternity unless we see the rules go to kill the pass. Which I don’t see. Ever.

I don’t want to trade any more draft picks for backup QBs.

I think Russ played on significantly better teams. He played with a historic defense. I mean, if Cam played with the LOB? Russ wouldn’t of had the same success here.

Yes he did. He drafted them. You can’t claim Ron had the luxury of guys he acquired….and use that as a defense of Matt Rhule. Ron wanted Cam and Luke. Matt Rhule thought Sam + a luxury CB somehow was good math over building something. And again, he traded away building block draft picks in that math equation. Which makes it horrific math. Ron earned a year 3 because he was at least building something. He had the players and finishes to prove it. Rhule doesn’t. That’s on Rhule. *no disrespect to Horn.

Rivera didn’t have the luxury of having a generational QB and LB. They weren’t inherited. Rivera went out and acquired them. And Cam wasn’t a no brainer add. Lot of coaches don’t take Cam. Cam only moved up to the viewed #1 when it became clear Rivera and Carolina were willing to go that route. He made those moves. Just like Rhule acquired Sam Darnold and a bunch of Temple/Baylor guys.

He broke the rookie passing record when he stepped foot in the NFL. And has comparable passing yards to Warner, Aikman, Young, etc. and yeah, he didn’t play like them. He was a legit dual player. Guys that can’t pass don’t have those numbers. did he get hurt? Did that alter his game and career? Make him a worse passer? Yes.

You are selectively comparing him to his peers. He didn’t play the game like them nor was he tasked with the same load as them. Cam is a unicorn.

judging Cam only by his passing is a similar thought experiment of only evaluating CMC only by his rushing.

Yes and the holes are getting bigger the more time Rhule has been here. At the most important spots. and again, under Rhule we made CMC the highest paid RB, paid his Temple WR more than a lot of legit 1s are making and traded away the bulk of our draft picks next year… that’s not how you build a NFL team. That is putting yourself in a hole you are creating. and on top of that Rhule has laid out no vision, no identity and inspires the opposite of confidence. Seems to clearly lack the ability to judge talent at OL and QB. Sam Darnold as the masterplan lol? And botches game management. Whether that is going for 2 when 1 is the correct call or punting from the opponents 30. And no team in the NFL dials you worse situational calls based on down and distance than Rhule’s team. And the final nail in the coffin and his team’s get worse as the season goes on. There isn’t an actual argument to keep him. Just saying he needs time isn’t one when all the above exists.

Totally agree that Urban being a once in decade type shitshow that there are no words for has really aided Rhule. In a normal year, Rhule’s clown show would be being blasted all over the nation. Could probably throw Gruden and the pandemic in there too. So many things you just don’t see often are aiding Rhule and keeping his name out of people’s mouths. He has been a joke. And what a joke he became clear this past off-season. Probably a decent dude. But he is clearly in over his head. We don’t have the years to give him to learn all the on the job training he clearly needs at this level. Matt Rhule belongs in the Big East

Our holes are growing at the most important spots. QB, OL and coaching staff. Cupboards are more empty now than ever at these spots. In addition to that, we have sunk pointless money into the RB and WR spot under Rhule. Rhule made CMC the highest RB in the NFL. Horrible move for a “rebuilding team”. His Temple WR is paid more than Adams, Diggs and a host of actual #1 WRs. He traded away the bulk of our next draft class. That’s not how you build anything. arguing in favor of Rhule is just sunk cost fallacy or being a contrarian for the sake of it.

Lot of truth to it. Impossible for a coach standing on a sideline to have a clue about what actually happens in detail on any play. Especially in the trenches. There just isn’t visibility.

He is a poo leader. Seems like a relevant issue.

Goes back to Cam post game answer. Cam also made Rhule look bad there imo. Talked about how he wasn’t going to spout off irrational answers or something like that right after a game. That’s what Rhule did. Why he needs to watch the film.

Sam has been a starting QB for 4 straight seasons. Rhule is just an clown. Sam sucks. NY didn’t make Sam a bad QB. They drafted a bad QB who plays to this day like he did at USC

Lot of past tense usage by Rhule.

What do you mean IF Sam doesn’t pan out? That was already answered. But I suspect that is exactly what Rhule is hoping for. Rhule cooked up more poo and hopes we forgot how bad the prior poo was. Hopes to start Sam at the end. Maybe get a turnover free check down game and a close loss and try the injury angle. I’m cool losing out with Cam. I don’t need to see Sam. No desire to be forced to root for that.

That’s why I said hopefully Rhule doesn’t rob us of that Sunday. Because I fully believe he is going to start scapegoating harder and harder. And it won’t be his roommate playcaller. It will be players. I fully believe Rhule will make Cam looks worse in the end than if he never played this season. Hopefully he holds off on PJ and Sam a week. But I feel he ends up going to both of them as starters at the end of this season

As a long time Cam homer the reality is this Sunday very likely will be the last game Cam suits up for us at BOA. His farewell game. Yes, I know there are arguments he should be signed for another year. For a new HC to have for year to help break in a rookie. But if you are laying odds? Odds don’t favor him being brought back. Could happen but I wouldn’t put my money on it. And I don’t think Rhule ever wanted him to begin with. it is what it is. Hopefully Rhule doesn’t rob us of that. But now that Rhule’s roommate is OC…..he will be looking for new scapegoats that don’t involve playcalling. Hope we get Cam Sunday.

That’s what I think I saw. If you aren’t going to look you will just have to trust me.

You know nothing Jon Snow I found it. Jon Snow stated “ I love Matt Rhule. Half man, half god, half possible centaur. I give you my word. The Jon Snow stamp of approval. He is the guy. We did it everyone!”

Jets were interested in Rhule a prior offseason. Nothing came of it because Rhule wanted to bring a college staff. And even the Jets thought that was too bad of an idea

Saints just have their number. Tampa going to steamroll us.

1. Fire Matt Rhule 2. Fire the GM start completely over.

Tom Brady now 0-4 vs the Saints in the regular season. Whatever they do works