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any tech you guys like with it getting hammered of late? or still more hammering to be done?

Face value he repeatedly said Sam Darnold was a very good QB right before they traded up for Corral.

I don’t disagree. But I also think Rhule failed to give enough opportunities to the young guys. I mean given what was ahead of Brady and TMJ. And what are suppose to be….

Oddly, Sam Darnold also didn’t really play in the preseason Robbie Anderson earned 85% of offensive snaps in the regular season. TMJ 36% I don’t think issue was TMJ and his gait

I’d have Snow 4th in line on staff to be interim. McAdoo, Tabor and Wilks all ahead of him

1% and I don't want him starting week 1. I do want to see him by the midway mark.

Apply it to Sam Darnold. Sam Darnold isn’t the biggest issue. Biggest issue is a HC that traded away our draft capital for the worst starting QB in the NFL. Matt Rhule and Sam Darnold are still here. Joe Brady isn’t. So yeah, Joe Brady doesn’t get the same smoke. The people here do. Who also happened to be more impactful as to why we sucked on O.

Joe Brady can be a bad at his job. He can ALSO be used as a scapegoat at the same time. Which he was and is. It's the whole two things can be true or apply concept. Joe Brady was a problem here. He wasn't the reason THE reason the offense sucked. So the other reasons have to get their fair share of the attention because they are in reality bigger factors. When a Rhule defender brings up and gets hyper focused on Joe Brady, they are generally using him as a tool to deflect away from the major factor (and bigger one) that Matt Rhule was in regards to what our pathetic offense. and the other problems are still here. They deserve the focus. Not Brady.

Sizzle, poundaway, and others. There is a small group that are indeed breaking their back to defend our billionaire owner and bumbling college HC. Tepper and Matt Rhule are indeed the key problems, yes. Not Sam Darnold. Sam is a result of what you get when you have people that should be in charge, in charge. Joe Brady is another example like Sam Darnold. And if you read my post, I have said countless times Rhule should of never brought in Joe Brady. Just like Matt Rhule should of never brought in Sam Darnold. There is nothing we can do about David Tepper big picture. David Tepper is the owner. He isn't going away. He isn't going to be replaced. Tepper is the lone permanent fixture. So to get a better Carolina Panthers you have to deal with the problems that can be fixed. That's the HC.

That's pretty much the position that was taken last year IMO when the boos started. It was primarly directed at Matt Rhule. I would assume it would occur again if Sam comes out and stinks up the joint early. The opening schedule in terms of who we draw as opponents will be very important for Matt Rhule. We got enough tough opponents where there will be a nasty stretch at some point. An early hard schedule could have things turn south quick in terms of BOA. I think some on this board have forgetton what the vibe was in Carolina right before they went out in brought Cam in to quiet the noise. It was getting ugly. I mean, the boo birds were loud and clear in the staduim and TV audio in consecutive weeks.

Matt Rhule was influenced by the crowd last year if you will recall. Not just personel but actual play calling. Maybe you have erased that window from your mind when the boos were coming down hard and loud at BOA. It’s the entertainment business. Maybe go revisit that window right before they added Cam Newton to make it go away. and yeah, a home stadium booing each week does influence things. If Sam is Sam and comes out playing badly like the guy we saw at the end of the season….the booing would matter if Rhule got overly stubborn. It’s the entertainment business.

Yeah, as I said before the hire I ideally want an offensive HC and one that can basically take over if it isn’t up to par. Ron was close to a being the polar opposite and did it on the defensive side. Rhule’s coaching career leading up to HC was basically to dabble in everything. Jack of all trades, master of none. Which in theory I guess is a good one to build a great resume to oversee a team.

I think Ron was the most hands on with players and probably the most on an personal level too. The fact Rhule made that really odd statement about finally sitting down with Sam somewhere near the mid season mark was always super weird. But I guess in theory it could just be the fact that words and Matt Rhule get problematic and what he said and how it came off wasn’t actually the reality of it.

Sounds about like BC's arm length issue. TMJ made it to the NFL running how he runs. It works. Next thing we know they are going to talk about the fact Corral sometimes will revert to some Phillip Rivers style mechanics to get the ball out quick and they will get over focused on that.

I don't think developing Fields was something Nagy cared about. He needed to win. He thought Dalton gave him the best odds in the short term. And going into the season it was all about a Dalton offense, not a Fields one. I think Rhule sets up a lot like Nagy this year.

I think it is reasonable to think that if Matt Rhule is forced to bench Sam Darnold early that PJ could then see the field. The crowd at BOA has potential to come down loud and hard on Sam. How many bad games to start off the season would it take for the crowd to get hostile about the Sam experiment continuing? Not many. 2 stinkers to start? Maybe not even real stinkers. Just doing nothing would probably get the response. Matt Rhule has found a way to go 2-0 with PJ. Every win counts for Matt Rhule. He is going to value wins over developing Corral IMO (which isn't about winning). I mean it's just delaying the inevitable. True. But it's what Matt might do. Not should do.

Matt Rhule. Your just being loud about coaches not employed here so people don't talk about Matt Rhule and the mess he made. Holla if you want talk about our coaches.

I mean Joe Brady was and is used as a scapegoat. Him being a scapegoat doesn't then mean I think he was good or that he shouldn't of been fired. Joe Brady isn't here. Matt Rhule is. And when you talk about Joe Brady....it inevitably leads to Matt Rhule's flaws as a HC. Matt Rhule hired an OC he shouldn't of. On a OC that never fit what Matt Rhule wanted to do and was just to build excitement. Matt Rhule couldn't even fire him and not botch the firing. Firing Joe Brady did literally nothing last year. It's Matt Rhule's dysfunctional vision/plans that are the primary and important issue. The real critique Teddy B had was of Matt Rhule's org/program. It wasn't designed for NFL players to get what they needed. And as Teddy B said, Brady wouldn't be able to grow under that structure. We are in this weird window where people want to break their backs to shield Tepper/Rhule for the shitshow we just witnessed last year.

that's the Panther problem. What are we really trying to do. It got really muddy.

Would suspect you would have rent him for the year in range of 9-12 million. just looking at his last couple rental years and he had 9 sacks last season.

QB play, stopping the run.

Rhule is just a bad NFL football coach. Sorry that fact scrambles your brain. Are you Matt Rhule's cousin? Only one of us is emtionally invested in these coaches. and you don't actually even read these posts you are replying to that you use to project. I stated countless times Joe Brady should of never been hired by Matt Rhule lol. It made no sense. And Rhule has even confirmed it was essentially a PR move for excitment. But again, that speaks to what a bad HC Matt Rhule is. And Matt Rhule is the one employed here still. So the discussion is going to be Matt Rhule's bad job.

Joe Brady is just a tool people use to deflect from how bad Matt Rhule has been in Carolina. Joe Brady sucked last year. I don't argue that. But there was going to be no other outcome. You have green passing OC.....and you supplied him with a bad OL, bad QB and a HC that doesn't want to pass lol. Which brings us back to Matt Rhule.

Teddy B was also the simply the no brainer add given they hired Joe Brady (running a Saints variant O) and had to install an O when COVID hit. It just made sense. If you had to bring any vet QB in....Teddy was always to obvious add in that moment given what we were. Without Brady lobbying for it. It was easy to identify. And that worked. Signing Teddy to a two year deal wasn't a problem. They slightly overpaid him but you could almost justify that to get a functional base O up and running in such a weird window. We inititally were on the correct rebuild path. Sign Teddy. Get a base O up and functioning. Draft a QB. Drafted QB takes over in year two and you see what you got and move from there. But we got off the obvious path. And part of that was a completely green staff and they botched the early rebuild but it was intitally set up properly.

I’m still not convinced about DJack and if he is that much improved. Think we just saw a lot of weak QB play early combined with a good pass rush. Which created a narrative that stuck all season even when it no longer applied. still think there is a massive gap between DJack and really good CBs like Gilmore. Think Heinike/McLaurin abusing DJack so badly was a reminder of that later in the year. think Jackson slightly improved but nowhere near the level that has been talked about