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Really almost have to disconnect it from wins though. A rookie QB having a losing record doesn’t mean the QB shouldn’t be playing or is bad. Lot of times rookie QBs are playing for rebuilding teams or bad ones. And they are rookies, it’s about growth and progression. Not winning today but tomorrow Cam Newton started as a rookie and didn’t post a winning record. Think starting him was the right call. ROY, rookie record book, etc. even guys like a Davis Mills last year. He didn’t win. He showed some real promise. Playing him was the right call.

and Sam is a very good QB. I mean, Tepper said so. We probably should be raging about why we wasted assets on Corral given that. They have hidden Rhule all off-season. His power has been clearly downgraded based on appearances. He didn’t win a single game at BOA past the month of Sept and was loudly booed at home last year….and nationally Rhule was viewed as a dope. if Rhule isn’t on the hot seat then hot seats don’t exist

Matt will start when BOA tells Matt Rhule what to do. The boos were impactful last year. I suspect they will be this year too. All will come down to how long Sam can keep the crowd off him.

I don’t think it will be an open competition. And I’m okay with that. I don’t want them to throw Matt out there to start the year off. Sam is going to be defaulted into the starting job. And I suspect Rhule will handle him very similar to last offseason/preseason. Largely keep him out of sight and focus on him checking down. because If you make it a real competition it means exposing all your QBs to real completion and scenarios. And Matt likely won’t be ready right away and Sam will look bad because he always looks bad when you asked him to be a NFL QB whose hands aren’t tied down. And you don’t want to go into a season with Sam imploding and still have to start him

Well, we have a RB who has only played in 10 of the last 33 games. That might be setting the expectation high

Starting Sam. Bringning in Matt mid season and him being better than Sam. Matt making some plays and bringing some excitement. and he would need respectable D and ST so the illusion of Matt being the answer sells IMO

Yes, plenty of people could of done better than Sam. We’re they on our roster? Maybe not.

I mean, it’s my opinion lol. So yeah, my opinion is showing. I didn’t trash Sam’s physical tools. There isn’t a post of mine that has ever done that. And I only said by mid season I thought Matt could offer upside offensively vs Sam. Because Matt is a better pure QB coming out and a gamer. Yet still acknowledged Matt would probably bring a comparable number of negative plays because of the jump up. it’s a pretty tame statement IMO Sam’s always been an athlete that played QB. He stinks at QB though. The mental aspect and understanding. Lot of kids straight out of college have edges on aspects of Sam’s flawed QB game. And not just the Herbert’s of the world. Mills and QBs drafted further down do. Sam is just physical tools. Not much else. What’s my bias? That I believe Sam is and has been the worst QB in the NFL over the last 4 seasons? That he isn’t good? That he has been given more opportunity than comparable QBs and the experiment should be over? That rookies have even proven to grasp things better than him? Well, I guess I can handle that bias.

Straight up legit competition? I’m still not sure Sam can actually beat PJ. I don’t want the rookie to start week one and us ruin him. But QB wise I fully expect he can make more plays than Sam by mid season. Game speed will take awhile. And he will make mistakes. Probably on par with Sam in that department. But I think he has instant offensive upside compared to Sam.

If the “the brand” had a theme song…Kenny works

he is a sad story. When Clemson won the Natty with Trevor I was certain Ross would be a top 5 overall pick. The Trevor Natty vs Bama was just Ross single handedly taking over that game. Clemson had bad QB play last year BUT that wasn’t why Ross’ comeback fell flat. He just wasn’t good. Clemson tried to make him the focal point and give him opportunity but he just didn’t have it. wish he got better advice and stayed in school to keep working on his comeback.

This hasn’t been a complete rebuild. Or I guess a poorly done one is better phrasing. Which is one of the main problems with Matt Rhule and this failed era.

Tepper said he thinks Sam Darnold is a very good QB. Narrator: he does not believe that think that about sums up his Matt Rhule comments and very mild public support that he finally gave him. I think Tepper has been embarrassed by Rhule and realizes he made a mistake. Which was the reporting. I simply think weighing all the pros and cons of it that he is giving Rhule more time. And I think a lot of that is because of how Tepper wishes to be viewed….and not a sign of belief in Rhule. Rhule or new coach, we aren’t a playoff team. Think Tepper has weighed how he would look moving on, how it will impact his next hire, and so on.

Not in college. He also moved from WR to DB. Which is always the sign of bad hands

I really want a role play slot WR/returner. I think those are two spots we could/need to address. having Carrol just increases my want for that slot guy with his quick release. Quickness emphasis rather than pure speed and tough. They are chain movers. Some Renfrow, Welker type guy.

That’s my forever pet peeve. PR is weird. You got the ice in your veins or you don’t. I wish we would actually draft someone that was returner. it’s the same almost every year predating this staff of trying to see if you can make someone who isn’t a returner into one. Think special teams ace in important enough for a late round pick. Just fielding them cleanly has long been an issue here.

PJ 7-0 Walker

well the QB room does need to change when you draft a young QB. you need a Derek Anderson type. Someone who has seen the highs and lows and everything inbetween both on and off the field. You need more than a coaching staff IMO. Sam and PJ are just trying to make it. No real difference to Corral. They just been at it longer and we know the answers on them already.

Yeah, he did. In another awkward presser that Rhule came out like a sad puppy dog. and it felt like Fitt read the room that Rhule is viewed as being thrown in the backseat and was trying to throw him a bone. I mean, clearly there has been a change in how things are here. And you probably could argue Tepper helped set Rhule up to fail by giving such a green HC too much power/responsibility at the start. Rhule needed to be paired with a stronger front office from the start.

Grier married a NFL cheerleader while in college

Go watch Corral vs Bama the last couple years. Bama is like a semi pro team. Grier isn’t a comp coming out of college

And a lot of the reporting has been his teammates would run through a brick wall with him That’s what we lack. Real leadership and energy.

RPO is part of the pro game now though. Nothing wrong with it. good teams are using the college concepts that their players used. And it doesn’t mean an early Cam Newton version of it is the only option or you then have to go all old school pro.

How many NFL player got in a fight in high school? A crazy amount. And how many got in a fight with Wayne Gretzky’s son? One. That’s why we hear about that. I totally disregard that. Did he party early in college and not take football serious? Sounds like it. Is it well documented he changed that while in college? Yep. Hell, that’s the path of how many successful people? Is he the safest pick ever? Probably not. But that’s why he is a 3rd round pick.

Nah, you don’t bring Cam in to mentor him on RPO. You would bring Cam in to teach him NFL work habits. Cam’s an all time worker. Leadership on the field from game day to practice. How to deal with the nonsense. We have no one for a young QB to learn from. Especially one that might like a little fun.