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I think Ron was the most hands on with players and probably the most on an personal level too. The fact Rhule made that really odd statement about finally sitting down with Sam somewhere near the mid season mark was always super weird. But I guess in theory it could just be the fact that words and Matt Rhule get problematic and what he said and how it came off wasn’t actually the reality of it.

Sounds about like BC's arm length issue. TMJ made it to the NFL running how he runs. It works. Next thing we know they are going to talk about the fact Corral sometimes will revert to some Phillip Rivers style mechanics to get the ball out quick and they will get over focused on that.

I don't think developing Fields was something Nagy cared about. He needed to win. He thought Dalton gave him the best odds in the short term. And going into the season it was all about a Dalton offense, not a Fields one. I think Rhule sets up a lot like Nagy this year.

I think it is reasonable to think that if Matt Rhule is forced to bench Sam Darnold early that PJ could then see the field. The crowd at BOA has potential to come down loud and hard on Sam. How many bad games to start off the season would it take for the crowd to get hostile about the Sam experiment continuing? Not many. 2 stinkers to start? Maybe not even real stinkers. Just doing nothing would probably get the response. Matt Rhule has found a way to go 2-0 with PJ. Every win counts for Matt Rhule. He is going to value wins over developing Corral IMO (which isn't about winning). I mean it's just delaying the inevitable. True. But it's what Matt might do. Not should do.

Matt Rhule. Your just being loud about coaches not employed here so people don't talk about Matt Rhule and the mess he made. Holla if you want talk about our coaches.

I mean Joe Brady was and is used as a scapegoat. Him being a scapegoat doesn't then mean I think he was good or that he shouldn't of been fired. Joe Brady isn't here. Matt Rhule is. And when you talk about Joe Brady....it inevitably leads to Matt Rhule's flaws as a HC. Matt Rhule hired an OC he shouldn't of. On a OC that never fit what Matt Rhule wanted to do and was just to build excitement. Matt Rhule couldn't even fire him and not botch the firing. Firing Joe Brady did literally nothing last year. It's Matt Rhule's dysfunctional vision/plans that are the primary and important issue. The real critique Teddy B had was of Matt Rhule's org/program. It wasn't designed for NFL players to get what they needed. And as Teddy B said, Brady wouldn't be able to grow under that structure. We are in this weird window where people want to break their backs to shield Tepper/Rhule for the shitshow we just witnessed last year.

that's the Panther problem. What are we really trying to do. It got really muddy.

Would suspect you would have rent him for the year in range of 9-12 million. just looking at his last couple rental years and he had 9 sacks last season.

QB play, stopping the run.

Rhule is just a bad NFL football coach. Sorry that fact scrambles your brain. Are you Matt Rhule's cousin? Only one of us is emtionally invested in these coaches. and you don't actually even read these posts you are replying to that you use to project. I stated countless times Joe Brady should of never been hired by Matt Rhule lol. It made no sense. And Rhule has even confirmed it was essentially a PR move for excitment. But again, that speaks to what a bad HC Matt Rhule is. And Matt Rhule is the one employed here still. So the discussion is going to be Matt Rhule's bad job.

Joe Brady is just a tool people use to deflect from how bad Matt Rhule has been in Carolina. Joe Brady sucked last year. I don't argue that. But there was going to be no other outcome. You have green passing OC.....and you supplied him with a bad OL, bad QB and a HC that doesn't want to pass lol. Which brings us back to Matt Rhule.

Teddy B was also the simply the no brainer add given they hired Joe Brady (running a Saints variant O) and had to install an O when COVID hit. It just made sense. If you had to bring any vet QB in....Teddy was always to obvious add in that moment given what we were. Without Brady lobbying for it. It was easy to identify. And that worked. Signing Teddy to a two year deal wasn't a problem. They slightly overpaid him but you could almost justify that to get a functional base O up and running in such a weird window. We inititally were on the correct rebuild path. Sign Teddy. Get a base O up and functioning. Draft a QB. Drafted QB takes over in year two and you see what you got and move from there. But we got off the obvious path. And part of that was a completely green staff and they botched the early rebuild but it was intitally set up properly.

I’m still not convinced about DJack and if he is that much improved. Think we just saw a lot of weak QB play early combined with a good pass rush. Which created a narrative that stuck all season even when it no longer applied. still think there is a massive gap between DJack and really good CBs like Gilmore. Think Heinike/McLaurin abusing DJack so badly was a reminder of that later in the year. think Jackson slightly improved but nowhere near the level that has been talked about

he has a better vibe going on of late though lol

Almost every QB drafted has the physical tools to play in the NFL. The tools can alter ceilings and make certain throws available or unavailable……but it pretty much comes down to what is between the ears. Winning presnap, coverage, timing, composure, manipulating the field, when to gamble and when you can’t. Yeah, you could give a box of rocks Mike Vicks tools and they could make something work. But outside of that it’s about the brain.

one thing I like about Corral is you got to see him multiple times vs a team like Alabama.

That’s not Rock Hill. I believe those are federal dollars that McMaster got for the interchange. So that is everyone on this boards tax dollar going to work lol https://www.postandcourier.com/politics/interchange-for-carolina-panthers-new-nfl-facility-in-sc-gets-federal-funding/article_e76cd920-b0ce-11ea-9a94-43247512a2e2.html

I mean there is literally a post somewhere that claims Joe Brady is the one responsible for Sam Darnold being here. I’m not going go find where it is lol. Might be in another thread. Then I might of responded to yours. All I know Matt Rhule. No matter what degree Joe Brady sucks has no bearing on that

Matt Rhule is the correct answer. and again, I got no problem with him firing Joe Brady. He shouldn't of hired him to start with. It was a PR move for hype. It was never going to work. Fire him. I don't care. I simply have a problem with using Brady as a scapegoat for all the problems. He had his. Fine with him owning his share. But when people start claiming he was making all the roster decisions, Sam is here because of Joe Brady lol, Joe Brady set and controlled the practice schedule for the team, etc? That's all belongs to Matt Rhule. Not Brady.

I know this hard for you.... The fact the Carolina Panthers weren't devoting any time to the 2 minute drill, redzone, etc is on who?

AND....the fact the Carolina Panthers weren't having real NFL practices is on?

He does in his world. And it's well reported that has long been his approach. The Ravens aren't part of Matt Rhule's staff. and there is nothing wrong w/ a green NFL HC wanting to watch people that have been doing it along time and take it in. But the type staff Matt Rhule has today is the one he should of had day 1. That's on Tepper/Rhule for it not being that. So was the fact they weren't practicing and gameplanning like real NFL teams. That's also on Rhule/Tepper.

Matt Rhule knows Teddy was right about Rhule not running real NFL practices. And it is in part is why Rhule let opposing coaches come into Charlotte and completely run our joint practices. In our house. Also allowed them to dicatate what he would and wouldn't do in the preseason.

Sure he did. He spent a couple years with Teddy in New Orleans. Payton does it. Micromanger Matt Rhule is the HC. He dictates the practice schedule. Well, unless he is with another NFL team in a joint practice and Rhule cedes all control to them....because they know what they are doing and he doesn't.

One Athletic source said he micromanages “everything that touches football” yeah, Joe Brady just out there doing whatever he wanted. First year OC on level given total control and the powerful man in the room. Micromanger HC Matt Rhule had nothing to do with how the Panthers went about practicing, right? The head coach doesn't have anything to do with that. Or who the QB is. First year OC Joe Brady was in control of everthing. They didn't practice enough redzone becaue Joe Brady insisted it was overrated. Not because Matt Rhule had spent years and years as a college HC where he didn't emphasize it in his practice schedule like the NFL does.