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I mean you also have to acknowledge the caliber of opponents we played the first 3 weeks too though. it’s a lot easier to go man on two rookie QBs both makings their NFL debuts. And a team displaced by a hurricane with their coaching staff out.

I just don’t see why the Browns do it then.k if that’s the case. Plus I think Sam being part of the deal would have leaked with the rest of the info. They could sit on Baker and see who gets hurts on other teams. They just signed Jacoby for the role Sam would fill

Exactly. Corral would be 4th on the depth chart and a practice squad guy. And pretty much this is the most Matt Rhule possible outcome. and while Baker would be the best QB in 2022. Especially the start. There is no actual point going down the Baker road. Outside of the fact Baker would probably get us the max amount of wins this team could muster.

Yep. I don’t give a rip about money. What would a team that gave up 3 picks for Sam give up for Baker. only other concern is the depth chart. Camp would start with Matt Corral 4th on the depth chart. We probably never see him and we generally already know the 3 ahead of him aren’t answers. Rhule probably keeps on the practice squad. That’s the primary reason I don’t want Baker.

the 2020 Panthers overachieved. They didn’t have Sam Darnold. Rhule wasn’t hated yet. Joe Brady was getting frankly too much buzz. People here and outside generally impressed we were so competitive. Career highs for a lot of folks. Then enter Sam Darnold. Then they picked up the 5th year. Which is what really made it the killer move. Rhule becomes the biggest clown not named Urban among NFL HCs. His image goes down the toilet starting with Sam’s camp that just got weird. Joe Brady experiment ends with a quickness and is fired. and the 5th year looks to of locked them in to a year 3 of Sam. Ben McAdoo can’t overcome Sam Darnold. so yeah, Sam Darnold would be the pinpoint even if you hated the Brady signing. Assuming Matt Corral can’t enter midseason and save everyone….which is a tall assumption for a rookie 3rd rounder.

He was probably the best realistic option at the time. And Rhule might of done better if he went that route from day 1. Maybe McAdoo could of talked Snow and Rhule out of Sam. Sam Darnold is the singular pinpoint move that will have killed Matt Rhule’s career in Carolina when the story is done IMO.

Again, you fail to acknowledge the playoff season was what got McAdoo essentially fired. They just waited a couple games into the next season to pull the trigger. That’s a weird fixation for you to keep championing. and here is Mr Facts pinning the Sam Darnold signing on…..Joe Brady? lol. Your favorite coach Matt Rhule already detailed how Sam Darnold got here.

lol that looks like a lone bored sportswriter having to make up something for people to click on in the slow month of April. And I’m sure it worked. Given how he is perceived up that way. there is no regret there lol. Well, the media might of enjoyed what a shitshow it got at the end there. It was wild. Which is good for their line of work. I can see we are now done here. If you now are going to troll me with the NY wishes they kept Ben McAdoo angle lol.

The Chewbacca defense is probably a better option.

I don’t really understand this question. But it also doesn’t seem you understand that playoff season you are bragging about….was the foundation for McAdoo’s firing. Not the season he was actually fired. That was just the confirmation and act. Because it became clear he wasn’t a good coach or playcaller. He was actually someone that got in the way and limited success. And IMO that was the league’s take too. Because he was basically done at that point.

All depends how you choose to view it. Giants O improved from 2013 to 2014. We agree. some would say a 2 time Super Bowl champ and veteran Eli Manning getting OBJ (one of the most talented WRs in the NFL) was the key catalyst in an improvement from 13 to 14. and you say the key catalyst was a first year OC named McAdoo. That no one has wanted since he left NY until a desperate Rhule came along. *yes, I realize the Giants made the postseason 1 year with McAdoo. You seem to leave out McAdoo was BLASTED that year specifically for holding a talented group back with horrible playcalling. That year you reference was basically the foundation of what got him fired. He got in the way of the offense. Benching Eli was icing on the McAdoo hate cake that already was baked.

I think that could be why Tepper kept Rhule this year. A big picture calculation on how others would look at things. I do believe the reporting he is embarrassed by Rhule and what he did with that. So he is giving Rhule a season, because I think in the grand scheme it will make taking a job here look better. league rumblings already say Carolina is clusterfug under Rhule. Tepper isn’t dumb. He knows how we look. Think he is just trying to look like an attractive boss when he goes hunting again. and there is enough smoke something is true. Tepper embarassed over Rhule. Rhule not crying when he leaves. Talking about options that could be avaliable the next hiring window like Payton. Etc.

Yeah. I called him the OC. Did I say he called the plays? the point, again, was Eli posted those strong individual numbers because he was a good QB…and that happened to be a season where he had very good weapons that where healthy. that’s the greatest reason for Eli’s individual success. Not the OC or HC with the play sheet. Same concept of why Eli got a bump in his numbers from 13 to 14. Eli acquired a crazy weapon in OBJ. Eli was a good QB pre and post McAdoo. You keep wanting to pin it all on McAdoo. Eli getting OBJ is the greater variable.

Mike Shula was the OC. A really weak OC. Which is why I noted him. Everyone here knows how bad he is. And you missed or ignored the point being made. Eli had good individual numbers that late in his career (some career highs) because of the healthy weapons that existed that season. Not so much the coaches. OC or HC.

and there are frankly just a handful of OCs that are really game changers at this level. Overall, most look good or at least competent with a good QB…and then bad pending they have a bad QB. problem with Sam is he can turn a perfectly good play and playcall into a bad down. people keep talking about Eli’s individual numbers vs the prior season and giving McAdoo credit. Eli Manning simply acquired OBJ. And Eli Manning wasn’t a slouch. Post McAdoo, old Eli posted his best completion % of his career and 4th most passing yards with Mike freaking Shula as OC. He had a healthy Barkley and OBJ that year.

I’d still like someone to ask Tepper about his “it’s an 8-8” league” stance. What about our process prevents us from being what the league essentially designs for everyone to get to. Think Tepper basically alluded to each organization dictates where you take that 8-8 team.

McAdoo not really a run heavy guy though and we probably won’t be built to do that except vs weak teams though. The 4 teams in NY all finished bottom half each year and he has a higher pass ratio as a playcaller than our offense to date under Rhule . we have made some good hires. No doubt on that. But some of it will be for waste if Rhule goes outside of whatever one year learning some can get out of it. But that essentially gets to my drum. Tepper keeps managing it all wrong. Marty should of left with Ron. Rhule then married to a new GM. He wasn’t. Now Fitt isn’t married to Rhule. So IMO, a lot of the revamped coaching is just prep for if things go south with Rhule quick next year. Which has decent odds given Sam is still his QB and the schedule. BOA was getting really bad last year before the Cam gimmick this front office pulled. But then you would bring in a new HC with the old GM. GM thinks he has been building something for someone not here anymore. New HC will want and need a different roster. So this whole season just smells of a predictably wasted year that delays building something.

You could probably make the argument if we had a decent secondary Josh Norman gets cut early on and disappears. He was horrific at first. But we didn’t have a lot corners so he would go to the doghouse instead off the team….and we would keep working him. Then somehow became the highest paid DB in the NFL for a brief moment lol.

@SizzleBuzz the above would be another great look for the billionaire of the community I doubt it gets that far. Tepper IMO will attempt to make a deal with someone. But it’s not an easy deal because no one in RH has use for that type structure.

Did you not read his other post? It’s a long process but a city isn’t just going to allow a massive liability (in more ways than one) like the existing structure to stand as it currently does forever. Something would have to happen. There are codes and laws that address it. there you go again, creating Tepper as some fictional character where nothing matters.

I was just curious about that aspect and the reporting could always be off. But the reporting keeps using the same LLC for the purchases near BOA too. https://www.fox46.com/charlotte/david-tepper-llc-purchases-land-near-bofa-stadium-records-show/amp/

Paid to be a leader and motivator of people though. Strong personality types. Perform well in high pressure scenarios. That’s the gig. hard to see how he can do that well when every small market reporter seems to have him fumbling and panicking so consistently to simple questions. Coked out WWE sounding Campbell might be able talk you into running into a brick wall at least once. and the Panthers need better PR folks when it comes to Rhule. He has so many bad appearances out there on camera. If they can’t stop them then they need to start showing some behind the scenes stuff to even it out where he looks the part IMO. And I’ve said for awhile Rhule would help himself by just not talking. And the Panthers do seem to have dialed back how much they put him out front of late.

I mean he is one of the highest paid NFL HCs in the league here to build and lead.

No clue. Tepper got himself into a bad spot. He will probably continue to look bad for awhile on this one. Because he still has the property and community eyesore to deal with. so some folks might drive by the Giant Peach….other will drive by David Tepper busted project.

I don’t really understand all the complexities of bankruptcy at this level or really any level What would bankruptcy mean for all the property purchases by the LLC. Pretty sure the same LLC here is the one buying up the land in Charlotte too isn’t?