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See I think that just cements that you don’t see Baker or Sam this weekend. If he isn’t playing them in preseason game 2, he won’t play them for preseason game 1…where starters generally don’t play. Rhule is going to have the “competition” be in camp/practice. It gives the media, fans, etc the least info into why he makes it. And then Rhule plays his staters just like last year. One game for a half in game 3. He is just BSing about how they might play just like he did last preseason IMO. He just doesn’t want to say the truth and deal with it before the game. Like last year.

They put co-starters for people “competing” yet have our #1 overall pick as 2nd string. Guess the vets are deemed more sensitive.

I think the end will be really good. Corral and Howell. Well, that's the part I want to watch at least.

I mean, Fox and Ron were just decent coaches. Flawed sure. But they overall were decent NFL coaches. Clear strengths and weaknesses. Rhule doesn't have a NFL strength IMO. He has a college one. Rhule seem like a Dabo-wannabe. And Dabo would be a horrible NFL coach. Dabo's A+ schtick wouldn't work in the NFL. And Rhule is bringing like a C game college schtick to the NFL.

I mean, I'm just saying what I think happens, not what I want to see. Rhule already said he won't play one and not the other. I just don't see how a HC can risk his starters for that long in preseason game 1 for a fake competition. Everyone on the team already knows Baker is better.

Yep, everyone has a window. Decent coaches too. Ron is a decent coach. He just isn't a great coach. It's much easier to do worse than Ron Rivera than better. Same w/ Fox. I consider them to be the same.

CJ Saunders should play in every preseason game. CJ Saunders isn't DJ Moore or Moton or CMC or Shaq, etc. Rivera isn't going to be playing his starting D the first half.

starters only played in preseason game 3 last year. I don't have a problem w/ Icky or some unproven starters getting some odd reps. Sam should of been playing last preseason. He needed any work he could get. But I don't want DJ Moore and the likes out there playing a bunch of preseason games vs backups.

I said I thought PJ and Corral would get all the snaps. Had Matt at almost 2 full quarters. I don't think wanting 4 quarters of Matt Corral is really being that pro Corral. That's not good development. Give him hardly no reps in camp and then have him go play a NFL game for 3 quarters out the gate? Who does that to a 3rd round rookie.

playing our starters for over a quarter vs backups in preseason game 1 doesn't seem like the greatest idea. I have no issue w/ Rhule playing Sam and Baker w/ our 2s. But I don't think that is his play when he does play those 2. is there a coach in the NFL that played their staters for the quarter last season in preseason game 1. Rhule's QB competition is bogus to begin with. In no way do I want to see our starters out there taking part in some fake competition all preseason.

Because you don't want to play your starters in a lot of preseason ball. Preseason is largely about sorting out the bottom of the roster anyway. The loss of a game hurts that. I didn't think 30% of the snaps was chump change in game 1. Bump it to 40%. But I don't want Matt Corral dominating the snaps yet. I want to develop him. He isn't getting much work in camp, throw him out there for 3 NFL quarters with limited gameplanning and it could go south quick.

it's preseason game 1. I mean, if you gave Sam and Baker 2 series a piece that would mean starters playing into the 2nd quarter?! In preseason game 1. Did a single team play their starters for a complete quarter last preseason in the first game? How many played their starting O at all?

I think PJ and Matt get all the snaps. 70-30 split in PJ's favor. Which isn't bad. You don't want to drown Corral with too much especially since he hasn't gotten a ton of work in camp. I still think Rhule looks out for PJ. He is going to get cut. Give him preseason game 1 to try to get picked up as depth elsewhere.

they got a preseason game this weekend. Camp is going on. Wonder if Sam Mills Jr was missing time for the HOF stuff. I mean, right or wrong, Ron seems like a show up guy given how he went about his battle with cancer. Just speculating. Wonder what the difference in opinion was on. Doesn't have to be coaching style.

best content has never come from the Panthers org IMO. It's been from local media. Which has fallen off a cliff. Local media is dying in general. We use to have heavy Charlotte Observer and the Herald coverage back in the day. That's all been shrunk down and is going away. now we just got jazzed up Panther PR.

I think how bad PJ Walker is, is overstated around here. He isn’t a NFL backup. That’s just Rhule being Rhule. Let’s establish that. But he is still better than a lot of QBs we actually drafted. He can’t avoid the dumb play….but a lot of guys we drafted couldn’t do what PJ has done on a NFL field (like the AZ game). He has some level of sporadic ability. So he isn’t the worst we have put on the roster in reality. Pike, LeFors, Touchdown Jesus. Hell, PJ probably is better than Clausen.

The loss of a preseason game doesn’t impact the top of the roster. They weren’t playing anyway. You largely only saw them twice in the preseason with 4 games. And that was a team being more on the risky side. Why play starters in 3 now. only exception I have is for rookies or bad players. I think you could throw Icky out there to get some work. Thought Darnold should of been out there all last preseason. I don’t want vets that can actually play being thrown out there for 3 preseason games. 1 is good enough for them. DJ Moore doesn’t need to be out there for 3 games. Same for Moton and everyone else that is legit.

When there were 4 preseason games….how many did you actually see the starters get any real work? Wasn’t largely a half in game 3 and maybe a series in game 2? I’m not looking for more than that. already know Baker is better. I don’t want to see our starters playing multiple series in preseason game 1. I think Rhule let’s it be the PJ show personally. Does him a solid and let’s him audition to get picked up elsewhere in game 1. I didn’t take his answer after actually watching him say it that he was really looking to play Sam/Baker. Seemed like textbook Rhule of just trying to avoid giving the media the actual answer early in the week. Which was basically his thing last camp. He gets all weird when he tries to play that game. think Rhule is planning on the Patriots game to be the game he plays/auditions the QBs. He trots them out for one game. Which is all he did last year with his starters.

that’s means you have to play the starters the entire time Sam and Baker would be competing? Who wants that? It would double up the time you play our starters in a meaningless preseason game 1. It’s not a comp if one is with the 1s and one is with the 2s the next series.

I bet they hardly play if at all this weekend. he will probably say he didn’t want to put them out there with all second string. Because who wants the actual starting lineup playing through a fake competition for 2 different QBs in the first preseason game.

The literal point of these shows is to argue different positions. Whether they always believe them or not. and yeah, it basically is Simms acknowledging what everyone else knows. Baker is better and should start. Forced to argue the counter point of why he doesn’t have the job right now. Baker not being elite is also irrelevant. He should be given the job because he is clearly better. A high end backup is better than Sam. An average starter is a no brainer over Sam.

I think PJ will log the most snaps in preseason.

No one is going to take on Sam Darnold via trade. We would have to cut him.

I’d rather see less Chubb. I hope Hunt plays.