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Sounds like you need to go lecture the clowns who had a pointless QB battle that lasted all the way until today. Baker has had one preseason drive and it included a botched snap with whoever at C with an OL he may or may not be playing together come week 1. This should of been done in Spartanburg. correct and easy, isn’t obvious with Matt Rhule. Hence why this thread has to exist.

Good. The bar for Matt Rhule is literally laying on the ground and he managed to step over it on this one. I mean my kid could of taken care of this mind boggling dilemma for him the day Baker was signed Rhule fanboys high-stepping like Deion Sanders because Matt Rhule shockingly was able to tie his shoelaces. I’d be happy if Rhule keeps proving me wrong but the fact this thread even had to exist makes me doubt that.

Matt Rhule punting from the opponents 30 week 1? Who knows. But what is certain is there will be something.

I’ve been informed by Huddlers that is all Ben McAdoo’s doing. He is letting his great staff do whatever they see fit.

felt more like wallstreetbets on Reddit to me. as the start is basically not looking at roster and potential but finding a team with horrific odds first. Then rationalizing throwing money at it for some big payoff

I think he played on a very good defense. That helped. I do think was more of scheme centric DB but that applies to a lot of players. end of the day, I think his aggressive play style could be similar to a gunslinging QB. Especially in todays NFL. The style of play simply isn’t going to lead to consistent play. And the league is built for DBs to lose battles.

I love Cam but he is done. That said, Cam saved Rhule from being fired in season IMO last year and Rhule still couldn’t do him a solid to finish out the year lol.

Mercury Morris doesn’t want to see PJ get a chance because he knows what will happen.

Corral was developmental. Best case for him was always seeing the field late if the Rhule era officially imploded. Corral going to IR in my eyes just highlights the pointless mess ahead of Corral. We still have Sam and PJ on the roster. And you would have hoped Rhule would have moved on from some of the mess regardless if they added a developmental player or not.

Agree to disagree. as I said, I disagree with the notion that players and coaches ever attempt to lose a game. But front offices tank seasons intentionally. It’s just part of rebuilding once you hit a window where you actually want to rebuild. If you know a new chapter is around the corner….it doesn’t make a lot of sense to retain certain players with big contracts, make moves for guys that technically could make you better today, win now players don’t end up making sense….and you don’t use up resources/cap/add players the new coach/GM wouldn’t want. So you let guys go, you don’t add guys of substance and you allow your roster to get weak. Jets did it Sam’s last year in NY.

Tanking is real. It’s just not something actively done on Sundays. Front offices tank teams though. The Jets front office tanked them the last season Sam Darnold was there because it became evident they had to start over.

His job was apparently some 7 year rebuild from the ground up. reality is we have no direction or vision or really any evidence anything is being built. Rhule frankly is just as far along building something as the day he was hired. still just renting castoff vet QBs. No team identity. Trading away draft picks. Poor coaching. We just added a bunch redemption tour coaches for the most part being billed as a great staff.

you can find quotes going into 2021 that hit relatively all the same notes. You can almost name any team going into any season and the talk is good heading in.

Selah won 4 games with a rookie Rhule won 5 with a vet (twice) Jets looked better than the Panthers at the end of last season. I’m not sure that casts Selah in a more negative light than Rhule. Jets at least went the route of actually rebuilding and attempting to build a new from the ground up. Rhule just in no man’s land. New vet the league rejected as a starter each season. Already on a 2nd coordinator and I don’t think anyone can actually declare what our vision really is at this point. We have a HC that keeps rambling about running the football and hiring OCs that don’t.

what are people ignoring? There is no factual good on Rhule as a NFL coach. Matt Rhule isn’t a good NFL coach. And I don’t think there is an actual argument he was a great college coach either.

I think the BOA crowd determines his fate. If we are losing and he is getting booed out by midseason (like last year)…..he gets fired in season. Rhule better have something to show for after Brady/Tampa get done beating us at BOA. If not, that IMO will be a bad crowd for Rhule. Rhule is going to need to win early and at home. If he does that he probably can last the season.

Icky, Horn and BC playing. Sam too valuable

Dang, no TMJ. Was looking forward to seeing him.

mad is for things that actually matter. I'm just talking about a bad football coach for entertainment.

I'm definitely not saying he was coming as the perfect prospect, or without baggage or without stuff to prove. all can be true and you still be better than Sam Darnold. I still maintain if you erased draft position, history and money.....Sam is closer to the PJ Walker tier than the Baker tier. If cost and history wasn't a factor, PJ vs Sam is the actual competition.

I mean, it's not my narrative Baker Mayfield is better QB than Sam Darnold. That is the overall national narrative. And it was the overall collective local narrative too. I mean, you can always find guys in the click media looking to take the counter opinion. Or guys tied to an org throwing support toward guys. and I thought Sam would win the "competition". But me saying that had nothing to do with Sam Darnold being better than Baker. It was rooted in other things. Rhule nonsense. I 100% believed he had a real chance to win it. But him being better had zero to do with him getting the nod and me saying that.

but looking at that was depressing, our 3rd round picks post Trai Truner in 2014. Maybe Tremble can break that streak. It's been pretty much 1 or 2 seasons and disappear.

True, he got cut but then made PS and eventually the actual roster that season. LOL I cheated and just looked if they were on the roster that year. Guess that's why I missed that one. He showed up on the roster and I missed him. So that is 2 3rd rounders that got cut. He must of looked really bad. He made it through waivers. Cardinals picked up the guy in 1996.