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PFN: Increasing Communication Issues between Rhule and McAdoo
CRA replied to AlphabetsEnd's topic in Carolina Panthers
The OC job was essentially most likely a one year gig where you were going to look bad. That was the job opening and everyone knew. McAdoo was the only taker because even bad teams wouldn’t hire him. Rhule simply had no real options. No one young and promising was going to take the stock hit of coming here for a year and going backwards -
PFN: Increasing Communication Issues between Rhule and McAdoo
CRA replied to AlphabetsEnd's topic in Carolina Panthers
I mean if you are a coach that wants to run and play D. That what you would want over a McAdoo/Brady. Shula had a great run scheme. I’m not making an argument that is what a modern day NFL coach should want. It’s a passing/offensive era. But that is what Rhule and success doing in college and claims To want to be. -
PFN: Increasing Communication Issues between Rhule and McAdoo
CRA replied to AlphabetsEnd's topic in Carolina Panthers
I mean Rhule didn’t want McAdoo. He declined him 2x for lesser roles. McAdoo was simply all he could get when he had to hire an OC. The league casted him out from playcalling because he was horrible. I’m sure Rhule is thrilled his OC sucks and is worse than the newb he fired. and Rhule keeps hiring OCs that go against what he “does” and has had success. He needs a Mike Shula type. But he can’t even follow his own words -
Steve gets it…
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Well, Higgins only touch all season was some silly trick play. Maybe they will let TMJ hold snaps
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Didn’t he have the greatest practice ever a couple weeks ago and was suppose to get action then?
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Black endzones always remind me of….
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Sam averaged less than a passing TD a game last year in his starts
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He is repeating what he did in NY as a playcaller. It’s why the league cast him off and he couldn’t get a job. Empty yards by a 2x Super Bowl champ is all you point to for 2 of those seasons. The playcalling was always predictable and bad. That was the story of Ben McAdoo and here he is. another OC brought in by the architect of the poo show Matt Rhule. Whose offenses get worse and worse and worse every year. No matter the QB or OC.
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I read it twice. Still missing where you responded to the McAdoo/Rhule stuff. I’ll keep waiting. its 2022. You still breaking your back to not talk about what matters
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PJ SZN coming! Always room the PJ wagon. Glad you are on board.
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I mean, it might be confusing because there is my take....and then there is the take the Rhule Defenders project out there as me having. They aren't the same thing. For example, you say I never allowed anyone to bash Joe Brady....meanwhile I called him bad OC (in probably 100 posts at this point), one that Rhule should of never hired (in countless posts) and didn't give a rip that he was fired. I simply acknowledged he was not the primary problem. It was Rhule. And that sent you guys to do Rhule Defender stuff. And Rhule is still the primary issue. That remains. McAdoo is not the primary problem. That remains Rhule. And have maintained that. And I talk about McAdoo a lot simply because of all the complete utter nonsense you, pound, etc spewed about him. It was all BS. McAdoo is everything I told y'all he would be to the letter t. The Rhule Defenders primary focus was OC. Mine was HC. I talk about the OC simply to shine the light on what you guys said was the issue.
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Oh I see what you did there.... See how you skipped over all the Ben McAdoo stuff mentioned. The Rhule stuff mentioned. The meat and potatoes of the entire conversation lol. Let me know when you want to talk about how Matt Rhule is the root of the problem and how Ben McAdoo is literally everything I told you he was.
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I only had to keep it up for a week. @poundawaychoose the Brady pic in an attempt to shame me…..because I always argued Joe Brady wasn’t the primary issue with the O. That was Rhule. Firing Brady wouldn’t do anything. The problem was still here. I also trashed McAdoo and told him he was horrific. That he was run out of NY and playcalling in general for his predictable and horrible calls/offense. He said that wasn’t the case on McAdoo. That we actually had a real OC now and I had it all wrong. so I just keep it up. He seems to be too busy these days to post suddenly now though
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CMC - Bad football is not being coached, it's the players.
CRA replied to MickMixon'sMetaphors's topic in Carolina Panthers
this is all standard PR talk. All teams do it. Go look at what players have said during the bad days of almost all teams. You could find people singing the political correct songs in Jackonsville last year. -
yep. It's a combo job...all of Baker's flaws are highlighted in our offense. A small QB, with a slow windup, that stares down guys.....in a painfully predictable offense. Baker needs to hand it off. Setup play action. Go deeper. Deeper balls require the ball to come out different and with more loft. The short game should be more check down/hot read. The RPO/slant game is too heavily emphasized.
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I don’t get why a OT on his heels in pass pro defending a freak like Miles Garrett going left right or through him can’t simply know exactly when superhuman freak Miles Garrett is going to jump and change his momentum and kick him in the balls so he can’t jump. I mean yeah, you want your OL to get hands on a defender. But some of this slow mo all22 hindsight stuff puts some unrealistic expectations on lineman. The quickest means to solve the comedy of batted balls is Ben McAdoo not calling this horseshit nonsense right into the hands of a defense. They know what we are doing. Life is easy. It's too much of the same short stuff to the outside. He can't loft them over. It's not a matter of him not getting his arm angle up high enough. They have to be on a rope. The lineman can get to the ball even if he tinkered with his throwing mechanics because it's the trajectory the ball has to be on those short routes. DL are too big and tall for thinking he just isn't getting his arm up high enough solves something. Kill the RPO junk too. The issue is they know where we are going and playing it. OP is just taking a round about angle to defend Rhule/McAdoo and this shitshow.
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Or maybe switch up the playcalling so we aren’t throwing so many quick short balls to outside? Defenses know too often what we are doing and are dictating the RPO stuff too. And yes, that comes real problematic because of Bakers size and throwing mechanics (neither of which were going to change in a couple weeks just because we signed him). Along with our OL isn’t our strength yet. all goes back to the same issue. We are poorly coached. That’s the summary of the batted ball problem in reality.
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Phillip Rivers wasn’t having 84 balls batted a game. Everyone isn’t a robot like Peyton.
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Yet no mention of the playcalling factoring? we are too RPO heavy, to short and to the outside heavy. They require a certain throw. Defenders know what is coming way too often. They can see the QB. The OL can’t. The timing gets easy.
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Plus predictable short passes to the outside. Those require the ball to come in hot and low. it’s all a recipe for what we are seeing. life is easy on those defenders trying to bat what they know is coming down