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Passing is 5. They have run the ball ok

Well that’s that. 7 point lead is like a 24 one for this Carolina team. Time to go start on that honey do list…

Kids like dumb. We got the rock, the bus entrance, the hill, meet at the paw. Reality is, it’s just good energy. And all that gimmicky stuff probably factors in to why Clemson has largely gotten kids to come there…

I mean I get it looks weird if you don’t know about it. But they could lose to Wofford and that field is getting low energy stormed lol to meet at the paw.

Clemson fans take the field after every single game. They take the field even in the losses. It’s been that way for a LONG time and tradition.

I mean, I haven’t watched UNC all year. But you can’t really use Clemson as the case for why. I mean, Clemson’s 2nd string DL is better than a lot of teams.

Some of it is.

Why would you go for 2 here

If Maye and Bryce Young were in the same class I’d prefer Maye Not hating on Bryce but I like Maye’s physical tools.

That’s the hard part. As Panther fan, we have seen that. It’s easier to do worse than Mack than better. But yeah, you gotta try.

Maybe. I mean, Clemson not being great doesn’t really bother me but I certainly can be a hater. This FSU team just hasn’t looked good the handful of times I have seen them. Just doesn’t jive with what you should see with a #4 playoff team BUT like you said, the era of default powerhouse teams just doesn’t seem to exist presently. Which largely has been this CFP era. And maybe I’m just use to that mindset. So while FSU doesn’t fit the bill of what I think an end of the year final 4 team should look like…..no other conference has them either.

I mean, maybe this FSU team is on par with that Kelly Bryant squad that got steamrolled by Bama in the first round? But I even think that weak ass Clemson team was drastically better than this FSU team. I mean it feels normal to an extent in very recent times. FSU being the DJU Tigers. But the DJU Tigers weren’t #4 going to the playoffs. They were just the best of a weak lot. Yeah, someone is going to be at the top. But the records for FSU and even Louisville IMO lie a little more than we generally have seen.

ACC just overall is horrible this year IMO. Increases the odds of fraudulent teams record wise emerging. Take that FSU team at 4.

and that’s all I have really ever said. People take that as PJ praise. It’s just recognition of what Sam is

Same tier QB. And yeah, and if you rank them you put the dude with a winning record over the course of 3 years when he was called upon ahead of Sam Darnold. I weigh the starts more heavily than total career numbers. They are both bad backup caliber QBs. You insert PJ into a game that is already lost and I don’t really care about those bad numbers. He is a bad gunslinger. What you want PJ to do down double digits inserted late? Play smart? That’s pointless IMO. Go down in a blaze of horrific glory. Which he often did lol. Think he had 3 picks late in one of those games.

Matt Rhule having a trump card in his back pocket (contractually) if and when he ever wanted to pull it…never meant he was using on everything Rhule even addressed that narrative when going out the door. And no one in Carolina ever pushed back on that. It’s safe IMO to say Fitt owns a large portion of the Rhule era mess with Rhule. And like you said, it’s the same issues to a large degree with Fitt both with and without Rhule. And that’s because Fitt is a problem.

I’ve always said PJ Walker is every bit as good as Sam Darnold. If you didn’t know their draft status they would be the same tier QB. and in a Panther ranking I would put PJ ahead of Darnold.

Matt Moore > Sam Darnold Moore finished his time in Carolina above .500 as a starter

I still get a giggle out of all the Panther front office defenders that have spent weeks calling people conspiracy theorist for acknowledging stuff is dicey behind the scenes and whatever the company is selling doesn’t smell right. Frank gave the signal when he talked about his unpleasant Dave convos right before he turned play calling over. And then suddenly out of nowhere gave Thomas Brown the playcalling. Frank wasn’t speaking the truth there. Not saying he should speak it. Just that he wasn’t speaking the truth about what was going on. That clearly wasn’t his plan all along. and when Thomas Brown started calling an even worse version of Frank’s O than Frank…it looks to of got ramped up again on Frank again by Dave. Frank’s job is in jeopardy. That’s what the clear sign is at this point. And it frankly should be. For all Tepper’s flaws and issues…..Frank has done a really poor job and done so from the jump. Tepper being horrible doesn’t mean he isn’t right about Frank doing a subpar job. Frank and Fitt both need to go at the end of this year. Dave needs to hire someone to run the team and let them hire a new HC/GM.

Frank Reich has never done it any other way. It’s stil primarily a Frank issue. He hasn’t had the talent to make it work before. He doesn’t change.

that's what gambling and daily fantasy football is for. I'm going heavy w/ Tony Pollard. This is his get right week.

it's hard to believe there isn't some legit turmoil/problems behind the scenes. Too many actions in a small window that don't make sense. Frank handing the playcalling to Brown never really made sense. At least how he explained it didn't. Frank claimed he somehow got the O in a good place and this was the plan. and now taking it away doesn't really make sense. Brown has never even called a legit preseason game. He was going to have bumps and have to learn. And you somehow managed to win one of those games. With a game winning drive. I mean, they sucked. But they sucked before. I think Frank has had a lot of unpleasant conversations. I think Tepper has zero patience. And Tepper saw last year here and around the league this year like with the Raiders, that sometimes, it's just your head coach, and you can change that pretty easy. Problem is a finding a long term solution. Maybe Tepper needs to start smaller. Find someone that is just decent and respectable that can handle what you got. We are back to frankly need a Rivera/Fox type. We need someone to right this pooshow to just being a .500ish middle of the back org.

I'll go the 2000 era Lions. That's what I consider us. A do nothing team that lives in the top 10 pick world for a decade.

The HC is a DC. So the O gets to be the O. They hired a young guy from the Kyle Shanahan tree that was their passing coordinator. So yeah, in the year 2023, that seems like a MUCH smarter direction/coaching for an O than our plan of hiring the fired Frank Reich. and the Matt Rhule 2020 (with CMC hurt) offense was clearly better than what we are doing in 2023. That unit actually got some overachieving praise. It wasn't good but their was good within it. Heck, even the Matt Rhule 2021 O when we had to fire Joe Brady...was still performing better than us today. I think Houston probably does have better offensive coaching. It's 2023.