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No he isn't. Rattler had more INTs than TDs going into that Tenn game. OL is trash. He can't make plays behind it when they get whipped. Clemson allowed 98 total yards on Sunday. They aren't the Tenn D. Best part of the Clemson D is there DL. Football is just about matchups.

I think what that big win did….was give Shane Beamer the excuse to keep Satterfield around lol. If losing to Tenn and then Clemson guaranteed he fired his OC (which I think it did)….would you of chosen that over getting the random Tenn win out for nowhere?

Tenn has a good D? Tenn’s D is trash.

Tennessee doesn’t have a SEC defense. We already knew they didn’t have a championship D.

Clemson was a consistent 10 win team at that point with Watson at QB. what was best for college football? y’all weren’t old enough to get that upset attempt. Thumbs are always on the scales. Clemson isn’t special. There just the ACC version of special treatment.

it’s all the same machine. CFP doesn’t want a SEC fest either.

Superstar QBs does that. Now they have shown up for a decade. They get calls. NCAA can’t trust y’all. Can’t dethrone Clemson for a team that can’t take care of GT heading into the playoffs. That’s not good business lol.

damn it Tarheels. ACC needs two 1 loss teams facing off in the ACC title game. Y’all fugging it up for the conferences long shot odds.

Hey, the ACC needs one respectable program. ncaa/refs can’t trust y’all

think the reality is there just aren’t actually a lot of dominant teams in college football this year vs recent years.

You know your defense is trash when the South Carolina offense is doing their thing Gamecocks up 14-7 on Tenn trend of all top 10 teams struggling except your favorite Dabo Sweeney lead Clemson Tigers continues

Ben Watson going Will Smith

Clemson at least taking care of business like a top 10 team should unlike this laundry list of other teams…

I'd take a great coach > great QB prospect I'd take an actual great QB > great coach.

is PJ Walker starting in the actual all black uniforms (the actual GOAT uniforms)? Because we have never lost when we do that. If not, I agree with the 10% ish range of any given Sunday.

we got a lot more folks than Matt Rhule that need to be purged from this org. no one needs to see Sam Darnold play another snap in the NFL.

I don’t know. That swag is kinda what got them to be 17-1 entering that game. Think letting them be what they were that year was the right call. best team doesn’t always win. That Panther team lines up against Denver 10 times and the Panthers win the majority even with the refs finger on the scale IMO.

Ron and Fox most certainly can be criticized. They had pretty notable flaws. I don’t take issue with that. I personally don’t like that brand of coach. Why I want nothing to do with Wilks. but they still were both good NFL coaches. Much easier to do worse than better than that caliber coach. NFL makes that clear.

I didn’t lmao I was on the Cam Newton bandwagon with @panthers55 very early on. Cam Newton wasn’t actually a super popular pick early on around here. He was deemed too risky by the masses early on. It took awhile for Cam Newton pick to catch on around here. I applied the same logic as to why we should of drafted Fields. One positive of not drafting Fields is your boy Rhule likely would still be employed here if we did Luke also wasn’t a super popular pick early on around these parts either.

I mean that is revisionist history and just acknowledging mocks after people knew what Carolina thought of Cam. And a #1 overall pick isn’t just a QB discussion. Especially in a draft without no brainer QB. Which that draft didn’t have. It’s why most had the highest rated player in that draft a DT. Ron gambled on Cam and hit a homerun. Calling it a no brainer that anyone could of made is about on par with your mental gymnastics of claiming Ben McAdoo would be good here or Rhule deserved a 3rd season

It’s not hard. Ron - good NFL coach Fox - good NFL coach Rhule - joke NFL coach that’s based on their peers. Other NFL coaches. You want a great coach. HOF caliber isn’t even something you bother thinking about.

Again, you called it a no brainer pick for Ron. Newton wasn’t viewed like that coming out. Cam Newton was viewed as a risky gamble. so yeah, it’s relevant that folks didn’t view him as the #1 overall guy until they simply knew we were going to make it so. saying QB is always a gamble doesn’t mean Cam and Luck/Trevor were viewed as comparable risks.

Folks weren’t mocking Cam to us either at first. It was a DT as the consensus #1. Cam wasn’t even being mocked into the top 10 at first by most. Once our intentions became known they moved Cam up in mocks because it became common knowledge we were going with the unsafe/high reward route. Cam wasn’t a Luck or Trevor coming out. Calling it obvious it is just hindsight of a gamble that worked out. It was a bold move by Carolina. Cam also had drama. College scandal. Zone read runner. He wasn’t a safe easy pick for the #1 overall pick. That’s revisionist history to remove any credit from Ron could have

Cam Newton wasn’t Andrew Luck. He wasn’t the consensus easy pick or obvious. He was considered a risky gamble. Especially at #1 overall. Players have made just about every good coach the NFL has ever seen. and Fox had more Panther greats than Ron.

Rivera is presently only 5 games under .500 as a NFL coach without Cam Newton as his starting QB. Yeah, Ron is an old school defensive coach. It's not my preferred coaching style in the modern NFL. But Ron was still a good coach. Two different things.