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they did go full rebuild. New HC, new OC, new DC, all new schemes. They traded away CMC and DJ Moore for draft picks. We are starting a rookie QB. We got a bunch of rentals and band aids all over the roster. the ONE thing they didn't do was trade Burns. That's it. And they probably should of. And they still possibly could this season. But that one decision doesn't somehow not make a rebuild a rebuild. Nor does Frank saying standard PR jargon to a fanbase that hasn't seen anything in a half decade about wanting to win in the process.

but that's the thing with Fitz and how he is judged.....all the bad is just dismissed as Rhule being the great and powerful Oz. Fitz gets this weird carve out that if folks like something it's Fitz and if they don't it was Rhule and Fitz was helpless in it. When was Fitz in charge of things?

We have a rookie QB, new scheme, and the weakest skill talent around the QB being trotted out in week 1 in a long time. I think we will be 2-4 when we hit the bye week.

I think teams should steadily add RB talent in the draft in rounds 4 and after. Easy to find good young talent in this era in late rounds. All you have to do is resist the urge to pay them when the time comes. 4 rookie RBs rushed for over 800 yards last year. 3 of those were found in rounds 4-7.

He isn’t terrible. Raiders just didn’t meet exaggerated expectations. Carr basically is the same dude every season. He is a Pro Bowl QB. He just isn’t Brees tier. Kamara is only missing 3 games and they have what looks to be a cake schedule I mean, anywhere outside of Carolina is going to give them a clear edge over us.

I mean Fitt has a lot of dumb or questionable stuff attached to his him name and little time has gone by to ink in the value he has brought. But people put all the bad on Matt Rhule. All the bad was Rhule forcing Fitt into it. He had full power. Except for anything positive. Fitt worked that out.

name a team that actually did a rebuild then? I mean, we are a textbook example . So if we aren’t….who is? I mean keeping 1 player on D doesn’t somehow not make a clear cut rebuild not a rebuild. Nor does a coach talking to a fan base that hasn’t won in a half decade saying he wants to try to win now too. Every rebuild wants to win games and they rebuild. That’s just PR talk

What’s a rebuild look like then? Some of your definitions would eliminate ever rebuild that ever existed from being called that. We traded away CMC. We drafted a QB #1 overall to start day 1. We traded away our 1 good WR to get him. We got a new HC, OC, DC and new schemes across the board. That’s a rebuild.

First string D didn’t have Brown, Burns or Houston. Giants walked down the field on them with ease.

Josh Allen out there down 14-0 and scrambling around for about 40 yards on a sack. Seems like I wouldn’t allow him be out there.

Yeah, I don’t think it was intentional. SUPER awkward with Bryce rolling up though on his heels and him not knowing lol

Every season is new. That win total from last year is meaningless. Those teams don’t exist anymore. We got to 7 with an abnormal amount of games against the worst run defenses in the NFL playing like it was 1963. the QB isnt just logged as an upgrade over bad vets. He is a rookie. It’s its own thing. Lot to learn and see. Great rookie prospects have a really rough time learning those lumps. Learning to win is hard. And he has an entire cast learning a new scheme while he does. And the roster around the QB week 1 on offense isn’t better than what we have put out there the last couple years.

I’d only go 9/10. Because you know this going to be nothing after that first game in Atlanta.

If you watch a Pat Surtain highlight reel from last year he isn’t up playing press coverage much. DBs are going to be playing off a lot in his scheme. Which is always going to be called soft when you get beat. I mean they were 10 yards off in Denver last year a lot. but you he had pressure in Denver. So I suspect we won’t know what our pressure really looks like until week 1. Neither will the staff. If Burns and company can’t get it he has proven not be afraid to dial up the blitz. Can’t think of his name but they traded one of the best pass rushers in season last and he countered by just blitzing more

Andrew Luck is the answer to your question. Luck was a multi time Pro Bowler at that point. Peak of his career. And then walked away after that year.

Saints have a vet QB. Decent roster. Easy schedule. that’s the easy bet. we ain’t racing them in 2023

You are on your high horse calling takes goofy. That’s the point. And you had some of the proven goofiest takes this time last year. and the people who got it right last just called a spade a spade. Some type folks you are raging at again.

Well, we got a rookie QB. and we are protecting his blindside with a 2nd year player in a brand new O. Who didn’t do a tremendous amount of pass pro his rookie year in the gun I don’t think. It’s basically a recipe for Bryce Young to have a bad time. While he might be ahead of the curve for a rookie he is still a rookie seeing everything for the first time.

There were even goofier takes last year. And the year before that. and some people nailed it. Folks like you did a lot of moaning and groaning at the crowd that ended up calling it pretty close.

I’ve been saying it since before the first preseason game…..but we need to round out our backfield and add talent.

It’s not doom and gloom. We just drafted the #1 overall pick. We have a brand new O. Brand new D. Brand new coaches. That’s exciting. Can’t wait. We are building something brand new. But playoff talk just silly. And all these but look at what X did! posts are referencing teams that aren’t comparable.

Yeah, life was easier for Icky in Wilks world. and a “regression” if you want to call it that will make sense. New scheme. Emphasis on developing a passer not hiding one is overall harder job for him.

I mean the technical right call was always drafting Fields and not Horn. That’s what a rebuilding team with no QB should have done in that window. Then you never go down the Baker road. You never give up firsts and talent to go up to draft a kid a couple years later. You probably still have CMC and Moore. but it’s cool. Matt Rhule likely wouldn’t have been fired and would have been given more time and he was always going to be a bad NFL coach. One we would have had to of moved on from and thus Fields in the end. Hopefully the Frank era becomes about building smart going forward.

Cam won 6 with a much better supporting offensive cast while smashing the record books. The 2022 win total is irrelevant to what Bryce and the Panthers do this year. Those teams don’t exist. you could feel better about Bryce and out direction with 6 wins than an 8 win season pending how it actually played out