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Yeah, life was easier for Icky in Wilks world. and a “regression” if you want to call it that will make sense. New scheme. Emphasis on developing a passer not hiding one is overall harder job for him.

I mean the technical right call was always drafting Fields and not Horn. That’s what a rebuilding team with no QB should have done in that window. Then you never go down the Baker road. You never give up firsts and talent to go up to draft a kid a couple years later. You probably still have CMC and Moore. but it’s cool. Matt Rhule likely wouldn’t have been fired and would have been given more time and he was always going to be a bad NFL coach. One we would have had to of moved on from and thus Fields in the end. Hopefully the Frank era becomes about building smart going forward.

Cam won 6 with a much better supporting offensive cast while smashing the record books. The 2022 win total is irrelevant to what Bryce and the Panthers do this year. Those teams don’t exist. you could feel better about Bryce and out direction with 6 wins than an 8 win season pending how it actually played out

you can find a talking head feeding all 32 fanbases entering a season

Expectation is Bryce Young develops and looks good by season’s end and that the draft pick looks smart Expectation is that you build a solid O and D scheme that you can start to really build off of going forward. It’s the literal ground floor start of a rebuild. There are tons of expectations. Playoffs just aren’t where they are

I don’t think anyone thinks Frank isn’t going to run. Convo was just about Icky and his style. Frank essentially runs his run game from the shotgun. Which is a different brand than what Wilks does for example.

Well, Vegas has them #2. Id day that is who the Saints would be most worried about.

We did. That doesn’t mean he didn’t lean toward being a run blocker. and the NFL is all about scheme and fit. It makes or breaks tons of careers. Everyone got talent. They get their edge often being in the right offense or defense. I think Icky can be solid anywhere. But if you had Bryce Young first, he wouldn’t be the LT I’d prefer. Im sure we are going to run. But running out of the shotgun like Frank loves and Bryce probably needs isn’t the most ideal for a young Icky to strive IMO. Bigger fish to fry than Icky. It’s just a small example of the little things adding up IMO about our front office. That is and has been having to change up the vision so much much in a small window. But it’s not outlandish to point out Icky wasn’t drafted for what we want to do with Bryce because he wasn’t.

Because we are poorly managed in the front office. Which has been a known fact for some time.

Saints, if healthy, are wining this division. and they should build an early lead in the division while we are figuring stuff out. We are rebuilding, focused on developing Bryce and hopefully figuring out a decent offensive and defensive foundation along the way. That’s just being an objective NFL fan. Anything can happen. But that’s the objective take of the state of things in 2023. And it’s why Vegas backs it. and all that is okay. There is fun in that. This season is not about making the playoffs. It’s not a realistic expectation.

We were a smash mouth running offense last year. They looked good doing that. Vs teams that weren’t good defending it. you ask them to be different it isn’t just about learning plays. Icky is a prime example. He fit a Wilks O. He flat out doesn’t fit what you would build for Bryce Young. And that’s our front office being bad showing itself and the impacts down the road. Rhule last season was pointless. Meant we drafted Icky for a Young offense which you probably wouldn’t do

playcalls can impact blocking

Doug called the plays in Philly. Not Frank. Frank called them in Indy and San Diego. And got heat for being bad at it in both those spots. Think Frank’s asset is in play design.

Ron at least was Jekyll and Hyde. He had a different demeanor when not on the sideline. The book on Frank is the sideline guy appears elsewhere too often too.

Frank just doing standard coach talk IMO when he tries to show Brown some respect like it would happen at some point down the the road. They couldn’t pry it from him in Indy with heat. Brown in that article Brown told reporters that the plan is for Reich to call all of the offensive plays this fall but he will be down on the sideline with him instead of up in the box.

Frank has been blunt he will be the playcaller to start the year. He isn’t letting Thomas call the plays in 2nd half come week 1.

Frank’s never been good at calling plays. He has been complimented on play design. That’s followed him everywhere. We got a bunch of old guys in Frank, Dom, Caldwell controlling and establishing this team and we just need to rolling with the young talent. Frank essentially robbing reps and time from Thomas he needs, for what Frank views as a safe start

We just aren’t a Matt Rhule comedy show

But we never did that. We just hired better than Rhule’s staff. our OC and DC combined have 1 year worth of experience in the job. That’s potential. That’s unknown. Frank got fired for bland and pedestrian offense. He is Ron Rivera. He is Jon Fox. and the icing on the coach cake was hiring a couple was hiring some 70 year olds to advise us in the 2023 era. Capers and Caldwell aren’t all stars in 2023. Heck they weren’t decades ago. this staff was about bringing some stability and respect to a franchise that became a literal laughing stock because of Rhule. Which it did. Frank, Caldwell, Capers. Respect across the league. And they got some young coordinators they hope the groom up and see grow. But they got grow just like Bryce.

He should have left with Rhule. Fitt was part of too much bad and questionable stuff to of survived. And didn’t have the resume history to be given the benefit of the doubt.

You right. Confused it. Gruden took them the next year. Tony built a Super Bowl caliber squad and was fired for not being able to get them over that final hump. He was fixture in the playoffs though and got another gig after it.

Only the coaches that made Super Bowls were immediately employed again as HCs though in that list. Rest had some work to do before they got another shot.

That’s because you know nothing Jon Snow. That wildling girl would have told you we sucked.

Impressed Matthew Wright - the dude everyone thought was part of the equipment staff pregame. 2/2 on FG, 1/1 XP with a 53 yarder. Disappointed The actual people on the football team

Icky frankly doesn’t fit a Bryce Young offense. That’s the reality. Goes back to pointlessly bringing back Rhule. Meant you drafted Icky for an unknown offense. And he fits an offense like Wilks ran. Boring smash mouth, under center, running. He is a run blocker at heart.