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Oh, to bump those Robbie Anderson is better than DJ Moore we gots to pay him!!! threads. lol.

Reddick’s pass rush isn’t a byproduct of playing in Philly. He got it done in Carolina and Arizona. Was better at getting to the passer in each of those years too. I’ve never argued he would have saved or done anything. Comment was Eagles added an elite pass rusher for 15 a year. Folks here talking about adding one for 30. Well, that is relevant if you want to talk about roster building by a front office. Eagles doing it smart. And they have a good roster as a byproduct. You start paying pass rushers 30 mill, committee RBs starting money, etc…..it impacts what you can and can’t do elsewhere. Adds up. Hell, our 6th biggest cap hit this year is Robby Bobby Robbie Chosen Jet. Because we paid a role playing WR like a low end 1.

Probably could have kept CMC and pulled it off. All the Bears got from that deal was pick 61. A late 2nd rounder that was almost a 3rd. Panthers could have likely figured out something else there.

I think we are the only team dumb enough to think Burns and 30ish would go together. And his team frankly has us in a weird spot when we turned down a trade we frankly should have made. The front office remains a problem.

You can’t get 2 first for him now. That was a desperate team being desperate and we opted not to take advantage….and then put ourselves in a poor negotiating position.

I’m not saying he isn’t arguing for it. I’m saying the Panthers shouldn’t pay that and if they drastically overpay him it’s a front office failure. Fitt should have traded him.

Then it’s a front office failure. Should of traded him. No other way about it. and that’s why teams like the Eagles win and we don’t. They paid an elite pass rusher 15 a year. A better one than Burns.

Bosa isn’t a comparable player. And neither should his contract. Burns is comparable with pass rushing specialist. And that market has already been set by the pass rushing specialist

Pretty much. Must be in the water at BOA.

Those are all pass rushing stats though. Guys better than Burns statistically like Reddick aren’t in the Bosa tier of pay.

ESPN has a run stop win rate stat? A Panther made their top 10 for edge defenders but it wasn’t Burns. Gross Matos at 8. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34536376/2022-nfl-pass-rushing-run-stopping-blocking-leaderboard-win-rate-rankings-top-players-teams

PFF didn’t grade him out as a top 25 edge player in 2022. Because more than pass rushing was factored. https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-final-2022-edge-defender-rankings But Burns is an elite pass rusher. But those wanting him to get the same deal Bosa gets are way off. And it’s not Burns hate to acknowledge he isn’t a Bosa

I read it. Brian Burns is an elite pass rusher. That’s what I said. And then someone posted his pass rushing stats. if you want to argue Burns is Peppers 2.0 or comparable to Bosa tier player, you would need to supply some facts for that argument. Which wouldn’t be his sacks or pressures. Because that’s acknowledged in the initial statement.

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The contracts are the contracts. What do elite pass rushing specialist get? That’s not opinion. now, it is my opinion Burns is an elite pass rusher. He isn’t Julius Peppers 2.0. Burns has done little outside of rush the passer in the NFL at a high level.

Acknowledging the current market/money for skills/players isn’t living in the past. what are elite pass rushers getting? That’s what Burns should be hovering around

If we have zero pass rush without Burns on the field….we got a lot problems in reality. Evero should be able to scheme up pressure. He did it in Denver when they traded Chubb. If he can’t, the rest of the roster is a pretty big issue.

We frankly brought in a better pass rusher than Burns not long ago. We let him go after a year. He went on to sign a deal that is reflective of elite pass rushers. Which is Burns. Which isn’t Bosa money.

Shouldn’t matter. Bosa’s deal shouldn’t be steering Burn’s that much. They aren’t comps.

A deal isn’t done because Burns wants elite DE money and he should get elite pass rush money. And those things aren’t the same. But I wager Fitt caves and does a contract we regret. Front office will feel the heat coming off this disaster Rhule era

If FSU was a SEC school they would have started the season higher than 8. Clemson would be higher than 9 too. All SEC schools get favoritism in the early polls.

SC lost a lot of talent off of what was really Dr Jeckyl and Mr Hyde team last year. Hard to really gauge them.

That guy is awesome. His stuff last football season was great. * I think he is a Carolina guy. Which would explain the Rhule nod at the end. His early stuff was always real heavy Clemson themed.

Did he say all that with his thick fake southern accent? I’m still not sure how they didn’t fire him on the spot for that lol.

ACC doing it vs this small time conference