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Shenault is a horrible route runner. They are doing great with him. All you can do is scheme plays up for him. He is a gadget roleplayer.

I mean, Chark would help. But he isn't reliable to really count on. Just a bonus. and it's the modern day NFL. You can't really just have 1 person that can go vertical either. I mean, you aren't' going to have a roster of Tyreek Hills but most teams have more than one human that can challenge teams deep to an extent.

I mean this section right here basically attempts to explain how we aren’t a rebuild by describing how we are a rebuild. 1. We traded away our 2 best offensive players in an offensive league for draft picks 2. We hired a brand new staff with new O and a new D scheme 3. We spent our resources on the #1 pick QB and planned to start him essentially before he stepped on a field 4. We got signed a bunch of bandaids all over the offense until we can actually bring in and build around Young. Probably the weakest skill talent around a QB in the NFL. but we didn’t literally trade every human of value. That doesn’t somehow void the reality of a rebuild. Literally all that young talent is on rookie deals. They aren’t on bad contracts yet. And they are clearly doing their best to not make Burns a bad one. this is a NFL rebuild. If it isn’t, NFL rebuilds don’t exists. Which if you don’t think a NFL team rebuilds that’s fine. But if they do, then we are one.

Problem is Shenault is a bad WR. That happens to be really good with the ball in his hands. You can only scheme him up so much. But yeah, he might be the best on the team with the ball in his hands

He said it’s not a rebuild because we have not won in a half decade and Fitt was supposed to be part of the Rhule era rebuild (which never was one). Was a clusterfug off nothing is instead. That’s lip service because of the the annoyed audience. all new coaches, all new schemes, rookie QB starting, traded away CMC and DJ Moore. That’s a rebuild. If it isn’t, rebuilds don’t exist.

I don’t like what Fitt has done. Haven’t for a bit. But this is a rebuild. Next draft IMO should be like that first Dave one but offensive. Go draft some offensive skill guys. And then pay attention to free agents that might come up. But no letting Fitt mess with our assets. I think big picture he has done a very bad job with the management of our assets and trades. and I don’t get the CMC or DJ trade really. Should have just kept them both. If we were going to develop a #1 overall QB. Give up Derrick Brown and figure out something else to get Young. Just doesn’t seem worth it in the end what we did.

Cam era was so good….people outside the Carolina’s actually cared.

True. Cam era was the best we have ever seen. It was a fun time.

I actually liked the fact Cam handled losing so poorly big picture. The game meant everything to young Cam. Most of the league is just business and paychecks in reality. and late in his career he eventually became largely a textbook podium guy. And that’s also when the magic was gone.

Rhule never dips his toe in year 3 with a decently run org.

Our playcalling and skill talent requires too much from a rookie QB. Requires him to play at a high level for success.

As far as TMJ goes, IMO that’s just a WR being lazy not wanting to waste energy on a decoy route….and then it just happened to go that way. He didn’t think it was coming IMO. Think everyone was surprised. Chark IMO can’t be considered anything. He isn’t reliable enough. Just a bonus. He can do the job when healthy though

we got no speed to threaten vertically. And if a D doesn’t respect the threat …..it makes coverage easier. Because you end up taking half the guessing out of the equation for a DB. They know everything is in front of them and play it that way.

Saints finished last season top 5 on D. Also top 5 in sacks. Safe assumption, it will be a tougher challenge for the O next week.

You just have to look at the run/pass ratio. Pass rushers need the opponent to pass to impact the game. Atlanta had 8 pass attempts in the 2nd half.

TD is an anomaly.

We aren’t going to threaten teams downfield this season. Talked about it before the season started. And when you don’t have the talent and playcalls to do it….it makes life hard on a QB. Especially in the NFL without the talent/scheme that allows folks to be open quick. Chark will help whenever healthy. He has the talent/ability. But it’s a one man job here. And that’s not really Young’s game. That’s my issue with his skill talent. It just doesn’t do him favors or match Young’s game yet. Wish they could have done better there. But it’s year one.

Yep, Theilen should be a #3 providing vet leadership to guys ahead of him and when on the field can be counted on to always do the right thing. That was Ricky Proehl. A role player/mentor. Not a starting WR.

Doesn’t help Young his WRs can get separation. Think that plays into the staring down. Windows are small. and our talent and playcalls pose no threat downfield. That’s allows a D to play different

I think Richardson and Stroud have higher ceilings than Young But entering the league? I think Bryce is the best passer today. I’m not talking arm talent. Largely think he was just ahead of them upstairs.

well, Young’s debut was noticeably less productive and efficient than theirs…. and likely had the easiest matchup and viewed as the most pro ready. so if it’s not the coaching and talent around them players…what would you put the pretty stark difference most on?

CMC at least suited up every game for his first 3 seasons and plays RB. And he plays RB.

No point trading Horn. His value won’t be high. Too injury prone to date.

Horn makes Jeff Otah seem durable And Otah logged 9 more games through his first two seasons. And those were 16 game seasons. Otah is a pretty good comp. Otah was essentially pro bowl caliber out the gate. He just couldn’t stay on the field.

CJ Stroud: 63% comp, 242 pass yards, 20 rush, 1 FUM vs Ravens D. A. Rich: 64% comp, 223 pass yards, 40 rush, 2 TDs, 1 INT vs Jags D Young: 52% comp, 146 pass yards, 17 rush, 1 TD, 2 INTs vs Falcons D All the rookies finished the day with a L but that’s to be expected. I clearly I think Bryce Young is the best passer of all the rookie QBs. So, I think that’s is something this org should at least acknowledge. The other 2 orgs did a better job setting their rookie QB up for some success in their debut. I think those stats/productions are largely more about everyone and everything else around the QB. Front office, coaching and talent. * hard to gauge the quality of opponent this early. You would assume Stroud might have had the toughest challenge.