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Canales' biggest issue, is Morgan has left him w/ basically zero options to go to. Canales IMO is fugged. I fully believe he could of coached us to a win Monday night. But winning in spite of Bryce fugs him.....with Bryce staying in play. I mean, what do you do. Put all your cards on winning in spite of Bryce and just praying they will move on from despite the odds being low

as much as I like to bash David Tepper, I am of the belief the QB issue is rooted with the folks Tepper employs to make those actual calls/decisions. With both his pro teams. He might want to put the final stamp on things but he is doing it all off the sales job they do on their decisions. The Bryce folks never left. Fitterer simply got fired because of the collective mess and embarrassment that went down. Morgan went into this season because Morgan (part of the team that brought us Bryce)......still believed. And orchestrated a shame QB room to keep him safe. And Morgan refused to trade Bryce and allowed the comeback when the national consensus after Dave benched and moved on from him 2 weeks into his era......was to trade him. Because that is what teams do when they dump a QB like Bryce in that fashion. Nothing we can do about Tepper. And I think Tepper has reached a point where he is overblamed. I think the biggest issue on Bryce and why we went into this season with a shame QB room......is Dan Morgan and his team.

someone with a strong enough arm to play football outdoors. Bryce Young has 39 NFL starts. He has just 7 games indoors. In those 7 games, they contain 83% of his starts where he threw for more than 2 TDs (so every game but 1 was indoors) and 53% of his 200+ yard games as a passer.

I mean, it does have something to do with physical limitations. They impact Bryce and the play we can/can't get. You see examples most weeks of that coming into play. NFL defenses, the non-dumb ones, have figured him out. But you got some teams that refuse to follow the path because NFL coaches are stubborn and some insist on just doing what they do (see Atlanta and their blitzing). You can send some pressure at Bryce but the key to making him irrelevant is asking him to sit back and try to read/throw into coverage. only way for Canales to get rid of Bryce....is to not try to steal every game he can in spite of the QB

He immediately was in some weird and bogus QB competition and was never really given the team going into the season. And we know from Teddy to Cam......vet QBs spoke about how Matt Rhule wasn't running a legit NFL program while employed. I don't think Baker was the issue.

Pre-Tommy Jone Delhomme wasn’t Peyton Manning but he had so much of what you want in a QB, especially given tier he occupied. He had contagious energy, passion, grit and odd playmaking ability. given being a “nice guy” doesn’t really check a box (Jake was that but it’s not really a thing you look for on the field)….Bryce really only has negatives.

I still say Tepper’s flaw is bad hires….but the rest of the bad after that is his hires. I still say Bryce is a Panther front office issue (Morgan and company) more than anything. They are the folks that sold Tepper on Bryce. The face at the time was Fitterer…..and Fitterer got fired for the collective mess that was 2023. Mainly the Frank move who I think basically gave up practically. I don’t think any coach has ever wanted Bryce. Frank didn’t. Tepper didn’t get in the way of Canales benching and moving on from Bryce a mere 2 games into the Canales era……but Morgan kept the deck so the Bryce comeback could happen and then sold this season off it. I think Morgan peacocking about one random Bryce game speaks to the real folks dug in and wanting to be proven right on Bryce

Dude is screwed. Go all Steve Wilks and win a couple more games in spite of Bryce……the org is going to keep him tied to Bryce. You got to at some point just call games as they should even if it means losing to get rid of Bryce IMO

I’m old enough to remember Canales not calling preseason plays because after 2 years of calling plays in the NFL and just one with this team…..other people needed the reps more than him

What we need:

Do not do this. This is the NFL. Rams could easily just sleepwalk cross country and play down to an inferior team and still comfortably win by 7 (that isn't as close as the final score says)

I think Geno fits. Not that I want that. They got history. He fits the scheme. It's why he worked in Seattle and only Seattle. I also don't think Canales is some QB guru. I think the NFL is about fit. He coached in places where the QBs fit the scheme. He doesn't now. I've been hammering the fit mantra since the day we drafted Bryce. He has never fit anything we have done. He doesn't fit much. And you aren't making him fit and work in Frank's or Dave's O.

we didn't draft him but we picked up Chinn in the 2nd round. He was basically the good deal version of Simmons.

the can do everything on a college football field super kid....that fits nowhere in the NFL.

Canales flat out needs a playmaking QB. Lot of OCs do. I still say Canales is best paired w/ a Jake Delhomme style QB. Preferably a smarter and more athletic type. It fits the tree he comes from. Downfield gambler. Type that can make a play when the playcalls just aren't there (Baker did a lot bailing out on 3rd and long).

I think Kaye is selling some bologna with that take.....presenting fairly even sample of great, okay and bad. They don't split like that. I mean, selling Bryce/Canales as "fine" with the freaking Jets game? Bryce had 138 yards and they were horrible there. First Atlanta game? Bryce had 121 yards and couldn't move the ball (they didn't need to but still tried). Phins? Bryce was horrible and Rico carried us out of the hole w/ an all-time performance. There aren't 3 blocks the games fall fairly even into. It's been largely all bad and subpar play from Bryce and Canales. You basically give him the one Atlanta game as the great one. One okay game with Dallas (that was all Rico eating that game and Bryce getting some scraps off that). The rest bad/subpar. The games fall overwhelming into the bad/subpar tier....and that's not what he is portraying. He is still putting some spin on there Bryce/Canales shouldn't be getting.

I mean, Tepper is an issue. I think we use him as the scapegoat for the bad of others though. We seem to always want it to boil down to 1 guy. And it sort of contradicts what we know of Tepper. Tepper is a bad decision maker that moves on from bad decisions. Nowhere does the Tepper ego have him tripling down on bad mistakes. That's not his thing. I mean, I do believe the reporting of the split in house decision on Bryce. I think it is logical that that the split was front office and coaches. Tepper was the audience. He sided with the front office. But Scott Fitterer did his sales job on Bryce Young with his team. Fitterer's team is helping shape Fitterers viewpoint. Dan Morgan was Fitterer's #1 guy and Dan's current staff all feed the Bryce Young narrative IMO.

Yeah, I actually think folks are way too hard on Person. Tepper has done a good job of squashing real reporting locally. Person carries decent odds of being the guy who might ask something they don’t want

add in offensive head coach. 5 of the last 6 first and second round picks have gone to the O.

I'm not doing the 100% scapegoat thing we so often to do here. Clearly, the Bryce Young issue has a lot to do with the folks in the front office. Morgan and his team are part of the problem.

none of these players are comps. That's where the Bryce gymnastics fall apart. They all showed things Bryce hasn't.

it was evident after his rookie year, he lacked the tools to play in this league. and it was also evident, unless you were going to 100% on some gimmick offense w/ elite YAC players all over the field there was really no point. we have been wasting time because we can't accept we picked a dud despite getting a real quick and clear answer.

I'll be honest, I'd be trying to get out the Rams game if I was him (especially w/ Horn now likely out)

Becomes Drew Brees? There is no path for such a comp. Brees was able to survive being a noodle armed QB late in his career......after he developed into one of the best passers in NFL history and used all that elite play/knowledge/career to help mask his deficiencies as an old player.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/49ers-jauan-jennings-throws-postgame-punch-at-panthers-player-in-retaliation-for-cheap-shot-low-blow/ I mean, talk about a perfectly executed, clean and direct hit......