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I mean, sure. But to an extent.....the bad play and stats will sort of jive up often. I do think players and coaches are aware of the stats. I'm sure a QB at some point has heard his coach throw his awful stats in his face in anger lol.

well, I think NFL teams do use stats these days. Analytics just too big of a thing. Now, I don't think they give a rip about ESPN's QBR. but do think a good team knows what there QBs completion % is going to this area of the field vs that coverage? Yes.

I assumed it was the play that resulted in that type of QBR on the season. Others in that range, get to keep playing for reasons that have something to do with not being a 5th round pick. I mean, I actually think for a 5th round pick...Rattler is a decent young body to have at your #3 or even #2 spot pending you got a solid QB you aren't looking to replace.

Rattler should of done more to not get drafted in the 5th round. Other rounds contain perks when it comes to QBRs in that area.

Every QB playing next Sunday in the Saints/Panthers game will have a QBR lower than Spencer Rattler. what do you want us to talk about if you are knocking out QB play for both teams in terms of suitable discussion?

true. but we talk about those guys in the moment.

you have a super high bar for a 2nd round rookie 4 starts into a career that took over what was a 1-7 win team. and I mean, we literally just watched him a couple weeks ago. Dude balled regardless of stats that day (which were good).

He is averaging 68% completion and 235 pass yards per game in his first 4 start....on a bad team. Yeah, he has better production as a starter than anyone else in his class and no one practically knew who he was going into this season. He is playing....oddly well (given who he is, how bad the Saints are, etc.). And that's our next opponent. In what folks deem a must win game for this weird ride to continue. So, yeah he should be talked about. football is a team sport. football players can play well......on bad teams and the team not win. I doubt the Saints are judging him on wins right now. but here you are in your Bryce Young feelings making it about Bryce. Go start another Bryce Young thread if you don't want to talk about the Saints.

True. That season, you could tell Tommy Jone got him. And Lady Luck sort interfered earlier in that season because the AZ game could have happened before it did and people excused it because the big turnover game didn’t actually happen even though it could have. AZ was Tommy Jone grabbing and shaking us so that no one could explain it away and we still didn’t listen.

Probably, easy to overlook…..the key defensive player responsible for generating 2 turnovers including ending the Rams final drive in the redzone as they atttempted to win the game

this is a rookie on a bad team. Playing oddly well. That we play next. But we just can’t talk about anything or anyone because of Bryce and the feelings.

Well, it gets weird. If Bryce Young is the quarterback…..it’s almost a certainty your team will be trailing at halftime (it’s like close to 80% of the time in his career). So it’s just never ending opportunity to comeback on teams. even this year, the golden year, we trail at the half 75% of the time I’m not sold on the clutch thing

I mean, after Jake Delhomme imploded versus AZ…..we gave him a big contract extension

We literally play the Saints next and this kid’s surprising start is the most relevant thing to talk about regarding them. Bryce Young insecurity shouldn’t shut down talk

67% in the 3 starts if you exclude the Carolina start. Kid was at 69 and 68% the last 2 weeks. Pretty impressive and he ain’t playing check down ball. shocked if he could keep it up but that’s a pretty wild start for him

I actually haven’t paid attention to him, figured he just had a really lucky day vs us. Saw some guys on Twitter hyping him and it turns out given his circumstances the kid is playing really well.

68% comp, 235 yards, 1.2 TDs, 0.75 INTs, average per game. for a rookie on a bad team, the kid can play.

Well, I think there is a slight difference between, you should know Lane will move on from you to look out for himself….and you should of known if your school made the CFP with Lane he would ditch you before it started. Hard to see that one coming. but it really highlights how college football is really meaningless and pointless. I mean a coach makes the CFP and is like nope. Not interested…..I need to go to LSU so I can get these kids to what? You certainly can’t sell the idea you are there to help them win a natty lol .

Again, the Bryce stans need to get on the same page. It was just complained about when I didn’t include 2023 on another discussion and left it out. Because they wanted to talk about his growth. the Bryce stans bring up Trevor, not the haters I have never said Trevor is above average lol as a NFL QB. but yes, Trevor can be a headache basket case AND the league leaders in drops can be a big letdown (paired with injury) in a convo where someone calls them great. They have been hurt and dropping the ball unlike any other team. Thats not great weapons at your disposal if they are hurt and not catching

If you are using PFR then you should be able to easily the the dividing league average line.....where Bryce is above and Trevor is below it. It's a big blank space that says league average when you are sorting by bad throw %. You don't really want to go backwards. Bryce was #1 in bad throw % in 2023 Bryce was #1 in bad throw % in 2024 (technically 2 but #1 was Anthony Richardson and he didn't finish out the season) in 2023, 2024, 2025.....Bryce is above league average all 3 seasons in bad throw % and Trevor is below all 3 seasons. Bryce stans need to find something else than thinking Trevor Lawrence somehow makes Bryce Young not bad. It's not working. And no one, even Clemson fans, really want to be in here defending the forever disappointing Trevor Lawrence.

This board must have way more Clemson fans than I give it credit for, the amount of folks that watch all the Trevor Lawrence games is way higher than I would have guessed. #All In! Go Tigers! Jaguars are also 6-1 this season with Trevor's best weapon the field. Which all of us Trevor watchers know isn't BTJ given we watch all his games.

yeah, but this is just some weird technical argument being randomly pulled for Bryce Young. No one in real time was wanting to make sure Philly Brown and Mike Remmers were probably credited. They were called weak links that we overcame and still succeeded with on that magical run. this bad technical defense had you saying Rex Grossman deserved the credit for taking the Bears to the Super Bowl when we all know the world was amazed they pulled off such a feat with a bad QB. Bryce Young does play a key position on the team, and it is amazing the Panthers have been able to win what they have despite such weak QB play. it hard to win WITH Bryce Young playing a key role on this team. Panthers deserve credit for pulling that off. It's not something people should want to do going forward because lady luck can only do so much and come and goes.

Andy Reid couldn't wait to get rid of Alex Smith (win every season KC Smith) and his checkdown, not making the throws downfield self. the goal isn't to technically log a winning season. It's to craft a team that can be the best in the NFL (without catching a fluke season to make it happen). KC was never going to be the best team in the NFL with Alex Smith (even if they won a Super Bowl off luck)

I know people like to deem me the ultimate Clemson homer, but I rarely have ever been a fan of most first round type Clemson players. Clemson has had a lot of DL players in the past decade or so go pro and go in the first round. I have to say, this current group at Clemson is the least impressive bunch to come out of Clemson. Woods never lived up to his hype at Clemson.

Off-target/bad balls generally don't meet the criteria for a drop. I mean two things can be true. The Jags skill positions players have been a big let down this year.....and Lawrence can be headache. Trevor is below league average in bad throw % though. Bryce as always, above it despite playing less aggressive. I mean, Bryce being at the top in bad throw % is the really wild part because he isn't playing aggressive dumb ball look so many QBs are willing to. I feel Bryce Young people are fixated on Trevor being a thing to use....but it just is too forced. I mean, they have being a bad picks in common but that's it.