CRA

Oh, well, he has had 2 really good games vs Atlanta in his 3 year career. I have never denied those

It’s called offense. Yeah, it’s sort of what it’s all about and your bad takes and off the mark comments continue….as Cam Newton is the Carolina Panthers GOAT. Not just QB. Player. Cam Newton gets offense. Much like Josh Allen. And they can literally be one man offensive shows if need be. They are the rising tide that lifts boats. So let’s quit bringing up all these names when talking about the current QB here

Literally no one would be celebrating Stafford barely hitting 200 yards in a game vs Carolina

Not true. Josh Allen had a bad rookie season. He got MVP votes by year 3. Year 2? Well, the Bills were double digit winners and the morph into the closest thing to Cam Newton was becoming evident. As you can't just look at his passing stats like Bryce, Allen was the most productive player on the ground for the Bills as well. I mean, this is just getting insane. and Bryce has been bad in 4 of the last 6 games. Okay in 1. Good in 1. That's progress. That's the consistent nature of Bryce Young

Joe Flacco was the opening starter in Clev this season. Bryce is making his move up rankings by 2nd and 3rd string QBs from the same team coming into the math.

as I said, you aren't actually reading the posts you are replying to at this stage. Maybe read that post again, where it articulates Bryce is not LITERALLY the worst QB in the NFL today....and how he gets the title of league worst over the last 3 seasons/since being drafted.

Bryce Young haters aren't actually haters. We are just those who acknowledge reality over 3 seasons. and so much of the board is word games and selective reading before responding. Bryce Young is not literally the worst starting QB today. You got rookies, backups, 87 year olds and all sorts of types that enter into any particular season. Bryce Young is the worst starting QB over the last 3 years. Those stats and facts have been shared and are what they are. Other QBs that are as bad as Bryce, don't remain on the field and become one year blips or 2 years at most. Heck, that applies to QBs that have been better than Bryce. That's why he holds that worst starter over the last 3 years/since drafted designation.

newness of some of weaker players sometimes can work to your advantage for game. Film and knowing what makes people what matters. We didn't pay the price some thought last week vs the Rams w/ an injured defense. We often see QBs take advantage of being new. Heck, even someone like Jimmy Horn, saw his best play his first 2 active games on the roster. I do think film and time is what lets team feasts the most on backups. but Derrick Brown is Derrick Brown. So, you got to think, film and knowing why someone is on the bench might not matter when you can get that ideal matchup.

Just had his best game? The Panthers did have their best win in terms of quality of opponent. Reality is, Bryce Young was treated like a backup QB for almost the entire game vs the Rams. It's yet another example of a long run of oddities come to life for Bryce on the year. Almost this weird The Golden Calf of Bristol season weirdness where it clearly is not good QB play but randomness resulting in a random season overall. Canales frankly called 2 really dumb calls on 4th down and it worked out terrifically. I mean, credit Bryce for making the plays, sure. But I don't think 2 wild gambles really erase everything else. I mean, take out the 4th down oddities and he was at 130 yards on the day (with a lot of YAC).

imagine thinking that talking about our next opponent is "gassing up" someone.... and then lying about basic info because it's not flattering to the league's worst starting QB since he arrived. as a starter he is 2-3 (just a fact) as a starter vs Bryce this year pass yards per game - Shough rush yards per game - Shough comp % - Shough QB rating - Shough yards/per attempt - Shough and Shough is only good for a 2nd round rookie thrust into the gig on a bad team. He is getting graded on a curve of what he is. And he won the last head to head vs us, and looked like the best QB on the field that day. there are a billion red flags when it comes to Bryce Young. This is just another.

well, you will have to excuse me with not crediting wins or losses to players that factually aren't credited to them. That's not what we do. Rattler had 21 pass attempts that game....which is more pass attempts than Bryce Young had in the GB or Rams game. That wasn't a Shough game. The 2nd round rookie came in for Saints final drive of the 3rd quarter down multiple scores. so yeah, if you want to be objective about Shough this year, you evaluate him as a starter. Gameplans on both sides of the ball for him.

Shough in his starts is more efficient and productive than the #1 overall pick in year 3. That should be a massive red flag for everyone. Bryce really needs Shough’s non-starts to lower him down him down I don’t think Shough is special. But it’s a good indicator of the lying we are doing to ourselves in Carolina

And our RBs are better. Not sure what cherry picking out our highest paid OL in the NFL isn’t a full strength…..has to do with the Saints kid doing what he is doing though. Thats just exists on its on. Good job by a rookie on a weak roster. We have seen rookies on weak rosters deliver horrific play

he is 2-3 as a starter in his starts he is 67% at 216 per game. That's as a freaking rookie on a bad team vs a 3rd year guy with a pretty solid group around him. you got to separate out starts vs the pure per game average because a game with like 2 pass attempts and zero yards completely fugs up the per game stats and doesn't give you a good look

yeah, I think despite the turnovers, the Rams own one of those quirky efficiency offensive stats of having the top 3 of 4 best outings and vs the Panthers ranks because we were a wet paper bag defense......with sort of 3 random takeaways.

Rams were theoretically licking their chops at our depleted defense last week.....and turned the ball over 3 times. I mean, it still a good thing. Sometimes it takes a week or so for the weak links to really show what makes them so weak. And sometimes, Derrick Brown is just there and any downgrade is hopefully a problem

I mean, give me a random team and I need to win a game....give me Tyrod.

I wouldn't be shocked if Rivers had 1 surprising opening decent game in him. But that arm hasn't seen work in a half decade. He gonna pull a Brian St Pierre and blow it out after a game lol

yeah, 7 years of college football at 3 power 5 schools. You got to think he is at least mentally ahead of a lot of rookies.

I mean, we talking the Panthers current starting QB vs 3rd stringers on horrible teams? Ok. Give Bryce the win there.

To win a game tomorrow? Or factoring in looking beyond the now. so if I’m the Jets, I view Tyrod as better than Bryce to win a game tomorrow. But if you are looking at anything besides that, no reason not to play over Taylor just to see if Bryce looked different away and if you thought you could do what all teams think they can do with other people’s QBs

Renfrow is just sort of a 1 of 1 on the roster. No real comparable. If you ask him to play like others he will be lesser. You have to want to do what he does. That was never the Canales O nor did it suit with Bryce. I think there usage/development of Jimmy Horn has really stunk. It's like they had one gimmick and then that was it. Outside of that really random ball he caught early on. But, scheming up gimmick Jimmy Horn plays is probably a bad use of a pass down given what our O is. Really just need to keep it basic. Progression should be Tmac, Coker and probably RB in the pass game as the big 3 pass options.

Saints are the polar opposite of the Falcons when it comes to Bryce Young. It just is what it is at this point. One team brings out the best variant of Bryce and one brings out the worst. Saints D is also really rolling of late. Top 5 in EPA of the last month (actually to top 2). And are very much having a a similar defensive rebound off last year like the Panthers. One QB will lose this game for their team IMO more so than the other can win it.

Did Rico have a bad game vs the 49ers or did Dave Canales? Rico averaged 6+ yards per carry and Canales said he was trying to make Bryce a thing. and I think Rico being critical of Dave made Dave immediately go back to a 50/50 split. Because from the jump, Dave went heavy Hubbard early after that game almost begging Hubbard to give him a reason.