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I think they took him for that. He projected to fit the role we saw in Tampa and Seattle. But Bryce doesn’t throw those balls. Bryce basically throws to the sideline or endzone…..not really ever putting them up and in play between the 20s.

You are engaging in nothing but long winded semantics. I could argue I fit Canales offense, disregard I’m horrific and can’t do anything at this level. Bryce Young doesn’t fit if he can’t make the throws an offense requires/needs outside of outlier examples. the proof is in the pudding. But given you just want to argue everyone is wrong and attempt to claim no position poorly….and that now all stats backing everyone’s positions are irrelevant…..you are just tiresome. Please declare yourself ultimate victor and feel free to ignore my posts. Bryce Young doesn’t fit most traditional NFL offense’s because he lacks the tools and throws for them to operate at a standard that would please anyone outside of a small segment of the Panthers fanbase and his parents.

the insane leash and the defense of him is about as unique as Bryce is himself. One of one. 170 yards, maybe a TD, maybe a turnover. That's Bryce Young. The good day variant.

Darnold had 4 INTs in the last matchup vs Rams.

I got zero interest in talking about other QBs and teams when we could just talk about the unicorn that is Bryce Young and his unproductive nature in our offense. 24th ranked offense 25th ranked passing offense 26th comp % Top 10 in bad throw % that's not a fit. If you want to say it is, I'm not following you down other roads.

No need when you can't acknowledge basics. That's only fitting in a Mr. Scot world. And we don't live in that world. 24th ranked offense 25th ranked passing offense 26th comp % Top 10 in bad throw % *and there are a LOT of people helping Bryce out this year in the NFL sucking in 2025

I don't need to follow you down your nonsense road and different ways when you can't get past this: Bryce doesn't fit fine 24th ranked offense 25th ranked passing offense Bryce also is bringing along w/ him a bottom tier comp % vs his peers, a high bad throws % vs his peers, etc.

yeah, pretty sure boss.....when things match and fit in the NFL.....the results then show it. and when they don't, well, the results show that as well. Bryce doesn't fit. *but I get why late season and wants to argue with everyone Mr. Scot has also turned into a please don't talk to me about stats guy as well. Given, the stats that reflect offensive productivity work against all your present arguments.

Really surprised as tight as that game was called they let that one go

also helped that Coker committed OPI to get that one and they didn't call it

No chance. He threw a blind duck

Bryce doesn't fit fine lol. 24th ranked offense 25th ranked passing offense Bryce also is bringing along w/ him a bottom tier comp % vs his peers, a high bad throws % vs his peers, etc. In no world is that, fitting fine lol.

XL did go chase down that moonball nothing pass to nowhere last week.

you want be to talk about broad schemes. I want to talk specifically about the offenses Dave Canales worked in. Which is all Dave knows and it shows. If you don't want to talk about Dave's offenses? Cool. Don't. But that's all that really matters. Dave Canales' brand of football in a convo about Dave Canales.

Go check what Baker did on 3rd down with Canales in Tampa. He bailed a very meh offense out that season going downfield on 3rd down. Like said, there is a deep dive thread somewhere about every stop. There are some deep dive articles that go into the magic Baker had to pull on 3rd down that season because the O actually sucked. Which got talked about when Canales was hired (that the O wasn't actually good, Baker was on big downs). Geno was absurd downfield for his comeback (think he lead the NFL in deep shots that season and we know Wilson was the king of the f you deep ball) Canales needs to be paired w/ a playmaker at QB. Just like every variant of the offenses he worked on needed to be to in order to make up for meh O schemes and meh overall playcalling.

that's why I reference the entire specific tree Canales came up in and what made the offenses work at each point in time. You have 3 offenses. Wilson, Geno and Baker. They all have shared the same traits that made them work. All the offenses have been relatively uncreative (which Canales essentially conceded he wasn't bringing rocket science to Carolina) and have been dependent on having an aggressive QB downfield to essentially provide the balance to a predictable and boring offensive scheme. Deep dive was done into the passing game of all those dudes/offenses before the Bryce/Canales era ever kicked off. Canales specific tree has always been dependent on the downfield ball at every stop. It hasn't worked at any point without QB that naturally is aggressive downfield and helps bail the O out.

Yeah, I know you want to do your thing here. Please point out where in Canales’ journey before arriving here…..his offensive tree worked without the style QB pointed out? I’ll wait. You wanting to nitpick broad offenses doesn’t change what I said. We are specifically talking about the Canales tree/variant and Canales’ boring and unimaginative offense (his words too)…..needs a QB (just like everywhere else he has been) to put it over the the top and bail it outs

I don’t think Cam isn’t retiring because he is waiting for an opportunity to comeback. That wouldn’t stop you. Think he has verbally conceded he is done. I think Cam isn’t retiring so he can always use that in HOF talk. Never make himself even eligible. Never give people a means to say no.

Every offense Canales has grown up in or ran before being employed here has required a QB with an aggressive downfield nature to them to function properly. There are no exceptions to that....people try to build one here. That is not Bryce's style. and his bland and boring O here requires the same thing here and doesn't have it at the QB spot

What exactly are you claiming is Bryce's style then? and what are you claiming is the offensive style of the Canales tree? They are not a match. I mean, his physical limitations influence what Bryce's style is

I would wager you could give every single NFL ref the slow mo view of that catch and ask them what they would do in a game with it......and it would still be a very split call. for me, the ball rotated enough while hitting the the ground even with his hand firmly on it, that a good amount are going to say the ground was used to help complete the catch. NFL needs better rules. I don't think they want that. Because better rules either lead to less catches or dumb catches. Instead, we get inconsistent calls.

We didn’t lose because of the refs last week. and if the NFL thought they had crew that would auto give a home team a win and were going to hand pick to use it for a team…..they probably wouldn’t pick to waste it on a game between 2 meh small market teams that aren’t going to be relevant in the big picture.

We went from the most dominate short yardage player in NFL history to a guy that can't run a sneak. Wild 180.

NFL more than anything, just needs better and clearer rule on what is and isn't a catch. They almost have created a scenario where the refs can't do a good job.

Said when he was drafted, there was a Cam Newton aspect to him.....you almost had to go all in on a one of one offense made just for him. We made it clear we were never going to do that and therefore the entire thing was pointless. Putting him in Frank's offense and than Canales O is just mind boggling. I was pro Bryce for a minute. But once it was clear we were just inserting him into traditional offenses and playcallers? Well, it was time to move on yesterday.