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I mean, you got a legit injury? You might try to play through it to help your team make a run. That's probably not smart but you see it often. Your team is 0-6 with no realistic outcome of doing anything? Playing through injury just isn't worth the risk.

those types largely do exist, but it's generally a position/mindset that emerges in the offseason and before the season starts off. We certainly had that here. As the season goes on, they shift from being as hardline. Because, well, it is what it is.

Probably some truth to that. Quick money makes many people start being silly between the ears

No draft pick has ever produced diddly poo in the NFL at the time acquired by a team. And most disappoint. QB bust rate is not incredibly high. that’s just giving away franchises to random people that might work out and might not. That might be with your team a year or 2.

That’s a bit of a red flag. That’s not balls. That’s delusion or insanity. If true.

Seems like Frank is just as full of bologna as Matt Rhule to date. Because very little they have said appears to be in the ballpark of true. this isn’t a win now team Bryce needed a full preseason of work there was never a creative offense to be unleashed Sanders isn’t a good 3 down RB

Goff was multi Pro Bowl/SB QB with the Rams. It’s not like Goff suddenly got good though. I consider him like Reid moving on from Alex Smith. A really solid QB. Team just wanted even more. That’s not a world we can understand.

Tua has a fantastic young and inventive HC. Tua has the fastest WR/RB skill talent in the NFL and that features arguably the best WR in the NFL and the biggest coverage influencer at the position. It’s just not Tua working hard on improving. It takes a village. And we are largely a deserted village.

I didn’t either. But that’s what the team said and that’s how they behaved. They deserve to be criticized. Bryce isn’t at the top of my list of complaints. But I think it’s fair to talk about his limitations and ones that will never go away. He needs a good team around him. He doesn’t have the physical tools to mask problems in the manner some others do. And that should be okay to talk about.

This is a win now team and Bryce Young didn’t even need real rookie preseason reps. That’s what the franchise told us. seems fair to critique the inability to do basics given that

True. But we don’t even have an inconsistent deep ball right now.

Teddy was a checkdown and conservative QB. And I'm not comparing a vet to a rookie. But people keep saying that Bryce is attacking downfield more than Teddy and that is just factually wrong. It is non-existent under Bryce for whatever reason. that's just a 4 game stretch. Only shows week 5-17. But overall, yeah, Teddy went downfield much more than Bryce Young has and it's not much of a debate. And Teddy hated doing that. It doesn't exist under Bryce. It sporadically was part of Teddy's game here. most certainly there can be debate about why Bryce isn't. Might have little to do with Bryce. But he isn't. And Teddy did it much more consistently. So rookie Bryce isn't even close to threatening downfield as much as one of the biggest check downers and conservative throwers we have seen.

Addressed this in another thread, but Teddy's next gen pass charts are still available for his time in Carolina. Reality is, Teddy Bridgwater attacked the field deep more than Bryce Young is doing. And it's really not close. And that's not claiming Teddy did it much. But it doesn't exist under Young to date for whatever reason. Teddy factually had shots and completions downfield.

I don't buy that at all. I think that is coach speak in front of a microphone. This is Frank Reich's O. Which is well established.

Thomas Brown is really an unknown to an extent in terms of what he will bring and focus on. The ideal scheme and coaching I would like to see is what McVay did with Goff. Brown was only with him for 3 years and 2 of those were the Stafford seasons where McVay tweaked the O more to a traditional drop back passer for the vet Stafford. I really think those motions looks pre-Stafford would help Bryce out a lot. Outside of that, Thomas Brown's resume is basically all run game oriented. Which that would help the rookie out too of we became more productive. I just hate Frank installed his offense. So Thomas Brown is still going to be working inside of that.

wish it wasn't out of the Frank Reich installed system. Thomas Brown can't reinvent the wheel on Bryce overnight.

you park billions into a sports team so your net worth grows. That is why Tepper is here. That is purpose and priority #1. professional sports teams have been fantastic investment vehicles for folks the last several decades. It just financial diversification for the mega wealthy.

Frank Reich looks and sounds defeated 24/7.

I still think it is odd that Snow and Rhule finally parted ways after all these years and he didn't follow him to Nebraska.

the real answer is we shouldn't of brought in a Wilks/Reich. Not wanting a Wilks type coach is a fine position. But we hired an offensive variation of him. Frankly, Wilks is probably a better version of that type despite being a defensive variant. it's 2023. We should of hired a HC suited for that. Which isn't Wilks or Reich.

It’s not like Tepper is the first controlling owner the league has seen. There are still only 32 of these gigs in existence. Even being horrible as a HC keeps you employed in the good old boys network down the road. Frank needed time off. We look like a team that just hired a fired offensive train wreck. Because we did.

Pat speaking some truth here. Good clip. Some very basic observation about Frank looking to be in trouble. He doesn’t look or sound good. Really like his Tepper rant at the 8 minute mark…which is basically an overly involved wealthy guy going….we need to fire the HC, we need to hire a new HC. We need to fire GM, we need hire a new GM. We need a new QB. We need a need to fire the playcaller. We need a new QB. We need a new playcaller. We need to fire the HC. We need a new HC. We need a new QB. We need a new playcaller. And that brings us to today. who would want to come to this poo show.

No coach is going to stand there and say Tepper said I had to do it. Nor would Tepper want that. None of that would square. and you know it wasn’t the truth with Frank’s bullshit reasoning of why he decided now…..when he claimed he finally had the offense in a rhythm as the justification. No one that follows football believes the Panthers offense is finally in a rhythm lol. They got blanked the last 3 quarters vs a meh defense. That’s a bold face lie.

motion is the McVay tree. So hopefully he adds it.

Panthers offense was shut out the last 3 quarters......as Frank declares his 0-6 team has found a rhythm. this is borderline Matt Rhule "you just can't see it" bologna. but I get it, you can't say David demanded the change and I made it. But end of the day, it's a hard sales job that Frank made this move on his own. Got to feel given the talk Frank has already openly put out there on Dave.....the team has to realize their coach doesn't really hold the power. Which isn't a good thing either.