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Pro Bowl - winning season - 66% , 4000+ yards, 30 total TDs?

I didn't click on the link....but it says up front on the title it's a fantasy football perspective. and yeah, I would think Brooks wouldn't have a great fantasy outlook at all this year. Hurt. Eased in to a crowded backfield......on a bad team.

our entire backfield is JAGs to date.

he hasn't returned a kick in a half decade and didn't even log a dozen before that.

I'd like Canales if he was just going to be the HC and he went out and hired a real experienced OC to do that job. I like his rah-rah ways. But Canales is calling our O. I think it will be his O. It's last year on repeat IMO to a large extent. I think there probably is more synergy there given Canales was at least able to bring his dude but still...

I don't think this changes much. They just are throwing another body into the mix. Brooks is coming off an ACL Cohen is still an unknown working himself into a return as far as we know Hubbard/Sanders are basically the same dude.

maybe we shouldn't of hired the dude that had the worst rush attack in the NFL in his only year as an OC if that is what we seek to be. And Tampa ran into weaker boxes than most of the league and still was horrible.

Bryce Young had the greatest roster since 2003 and an allstar coaching staff per the board going in. That only changed when Bryce couldn't make plays. and the coach didn't trust him to do many things.

Tom Brady is totally cool with being roasted and people shitting all over him, his wives, family, etc......but goes all Will Smith on a frankly lightweight Bob Kraft joke? Big picture, Brady and Bledsoe seem like assclowns in reality IMO. Those jokes can't mask it. Thought both of them actually came off unlikable when they got their moments on stage.

yeah, the girl was really good.

I think Tepper was attempting to be joking/friendly as a means to deal with the bad PR…. but the encounter is on video. It still shows Tepper is out of touch and lacks basic interaction skills. He walked straight up to a grown man and removed his cap for him. That’s not normal. Hence the new sign joke.

and that’s sort of why we are the worst team in all professional sports… we mortgaged our future on an anomaly QB….and then pair him with coaches that expect he should be able to just fit him into what they have done. this franchise shouldn’t of draft Bryce Young. Simple as that.

Oh he can be worse….NFL teams will now have a years worth of film on him, all his issues and tendencies. It’s why year 2 is historically hard on QBs and the sophomore slump term is used. and he is playing in a new scheme with a rookie HC and rookie OC. Which that alone sets up more difficulty. Then on top of that, the O is going to be built for a downfield gunslinger. I personally think Bryce looks worse this year. Too much sets up for that.

And I’m fine with that. But, with an impatient owner….that carries high odds of just him employing a new HC in the not distant future. The “we will see if the scheme that doesn’t fit our #1 overall pick QB works or not” approach seems like a rocky plan for all. If I was Canales I would give it shot but demanded I need to be able to sign a legit backup QB in case what I was given just doesn’t work and can transition at the end of the year

Yeah, my issue with the Canales pairing….is his history is all tied the deep balls. Saw it last year with Baker. Deep ball was the basis for Geno’s comeback story and Wilson has always been a chuck it downfield QB. First big investment by Canales was a WR that 100% fit that philosophy in Leggette. Thats not Bryce. He doesn’t fit what Canales history is. Just like he didn’t fit Frank. Only real argument I got is maybe this staff is young enough to deviate from what they have been around and been in this league. Historically, coaches struggle with that. Bryce specific, just feels similar to last year. He is the square peg to the round hole. Geno seems to be the one people really like to point to for why Canales is going to pull it off but…Geno’s aired it out and was the best deep passer in the NFL that season. Nearly half of Smith's 30 touchdown passes came on deep passes, and his 13 downfield scores led all quarterbacks. This rate of success was stellar: 25.4 percent of Smith's deep attempts produced touchdowns in 2022. With this in mind, it's easy to see how he finished with a deep passing EPA of +42.3 https://www.nfl.com/news/next-gen-stats-top-10-nfl-deep-passers-of-2022-geno-smith-tua-tagovailoa-excel-a#:~:text=Nearly half of Smith's 30,deep passing EPA of %2B42.3.

yeah, prime GOATS can small ball you to death. But they are doing it after essentially building HOF careers and taking all that knowledge and ability into attempting that. I don't think late stage Brees and Brady had great physical tools. But they had HOF brains to pair with their weaked arms. And late Brady probably had the best pocket game in NFL history that help max out his arm.

how would I describe Green Bay.... well, I'd say Green Bay was up 30-16 with less than 8 minutes left to play. Which is the window where defensive pretty consistently mismanage games and give up offense. Which we generally agree on around here as a thing that happens. Almost 50% of Bryce's yards came in that small window. And GB helped him out with 15 yard add on penalties on the two scoring drives. Big picture, I think GB just played bad at the end more so than us playing great.

hard to tell sarcasm sometimes. I mean, look I said, before the season started the org set Bryce up to fail (big picture)......I have never been it's an all Bryce guy. Shoot, I still think he is going into the season with weak options at the 3 spots that matter most if Bryce is your QB. And top it off, I think he is paired once again with a scheme that isn't meant for him. I just don't get drafting him if you weren't going to cater to him. It would like drafting Cam and have him mimic 2nd half of his career Tom Brady on O. It doesn't fit. Say what you will about them, but when Ron/Hurney drafted Cam....they went all in day 1 on the type QB he was. Scheme, plays and talent. It got him up and running instantly. but then Bryce also highlighted his own issues. And he has some big ones given he was a #1 overall draft pick. and I still feel, they are not setting him up to reach whatever ceiling he has.

I think what Bryce specifically does/did....is allows a defense to play defense in a manner they can't and don't vs others. and then Bryce just plays into that largely. which is going to always bring the convo back to Bryce's physical tools IMO. Other QBs can threaten the field in scenarios Bryce can't. They can threaten parts of the field and attack smaller passing windows than Bryce....and more importantly, they can do it in non-ideal scenarios. Non-ideal scenarios make throws tougher. Bryce doesn't make/can't make many of those throws and Ds know it. That's the Bryce issue. People say but Bryce could. But they are saying he might could in an ideal scenarios. He doesn't have the velocity to hit throws to hit tight windows downfield, and specifically when the pocket forces him into a non-ideal scenarios IMO.

well, the argument was made that from Stroud to Mahomes.....no QB would have done better here. How you just going to, not say something lol

I mean, poster also said Young or Mahomes, it would have made no difference. If there was way to actually test that hypothetical, I would sell every belonging I have and wager that Mahomes would indeed yield different results. Mahomes automatically changes the D coverages. He automatically changes the threats. He attacks and threatens a field different vastly different. We have seen good QBs and great QBs play behind horrific OLs in a single season....and they don't default into being the worst team in the NFL. Frank Reich was old, stubborn and not creative enough to deal with an anomaly QB like Bryce. The best QB in the NFL wouldn't be handicapping Frank, they would be enhancing Frank. Starting week 1, Frank didn't even trust Bryce with basics....Frank gave him I what I feel comfortable with you being able to do offense. Which took throws and plays off the table because Bryce couldn't do early on what a bad vet in Dalton could. Mahomes would not yield the same results.

but what if.....and here me out....the pro Bryce Young stuff was coming from people under Fitterer. You know, the people who are employed to feed him that input. And they happen to all still be employed here. when Rhule was fired I desperately wanted Fitterer fired. It set things up for Fitterer to be the sacrificial lamb the next time things went poorly....every time we move on from a disaster, we are retaining a heavy % of the folks who helped bring the disaster we are "moving on from". Everyone argued Fitterer probably could be great and it was all Rhule. We are just repeating the same stuff to a degree IMO. Panthers needed a clean slate post Rhule era. Needed another post Frank era. Things were just too bad or too dysfunctional IMO to be salvaging so much. We keep failing to do that.

grass ain't always greener. people hated on Hurney and Ron like they slapped their mama. It's easier to do worse than NFL average than it is better.

I don't know if he needed a surgeon back there. The gunslinger aspect aids WRs too. Think he just needed a more pass happy O. I mean, imagine if he got the target % Brandon Marshall or Andre Johnson or Calvin were getting in their primes. Bigger target difference between 89 and some other WRs from that era. I mean, you get to the point, 89 was rounding down to 100 targets and some were rounding up to near almost 200 a season.