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I don't think that was all of it either. I think a lot of how things were going to be for Frank was mapped out by Tepper/Fitt.

before you were banned: 0 wins after you were banned: 2 wins

this is all bad news IMO. good luck attracting a quality HC....when the owner is going to dictate his staff. Again.

We need to build a completely new team. Now isn't the time to overpay an incomplete player that doesn't actually dominate at anything.... and devote a large % of our cap to them.

take your money and take your wife and go on a LONG vacation. Comeback in 4 years and evalute things then.

I like Tabor. That said, I think the next HC should be able to pick his staff. I think a HC should be able to bring in guys who he works well with. All plays into the locker room and in house culture. There are always examples where keeping someone the new coach doesn't hire works out. But big picture, I it just goes against what my preference is. I don't think our new HC should be told who his staff is.

Scott Fitterer and this current team shouldn't be allowed to sign and put our future cap into anyone. Burns remains a very one dimensional player. And not only is he a one dimensional pass rusher but he is one dimensional in his pass rushing. Next coach should have input on the vision and where he would want our resources put. We need a completely rebuilt roster for our next coach. That takes cap. And the emphasis needs to be on fixing the offense. You can find roleplayer pass rushers. Which is essentially all Burns is.

I think everyone acknowledges he is in on these decisions. Some are trying to point out that Scott Fitterer likely is a person that is putting some of these bad ideas on the table that get carried out. Some of it is Tepper just co-signing what his bad employees are telling him they should do. Scott is one of those.

What visions? Rhule never had one. Neither did Frank. Everything is this no man's land of claiming to rebuild and win now at the same time.

Sam Darnold is not a NFL QB. He is pointless. I'd take PJ Walker and Wilks over what we had this year. That doesn't make PJ Walker not pointless. I don't buy Tepper is the one telling Fitterer everything to do. I think Fitterer is selling Tepper on a lot of this stuff. It's why Tepper's defense of stupidity often sounds very GM-like in it's reasoning. People keep excusing Fitt. It was all Rhule. Now it's all Tepper. Odds are a lot of it is just Fitterer being a bad GM and him having bad advice for Tepper

taking a flyer on him means not picking up his 5th year option and more importantly.....it means he isn't your only plan at the position. He should of been a rehab project/depth. That would have made sense. And you probably take that flyer on him when he got cut. Not traded for him. I can stomach the trade though. I couldn't stomach how they just slotted a busted QB as THE guy.

Yep. Frank conceded his coaches didn't agree with him. Which that admission hints at a pretty stark disagreement for him to concede that IMO. but yeah, no coach is then going to get on a microphone after that loss and say I disagreed with Frank on it. That defies even the most basic common sense. You rightfully should be fired if you do that. Only coaches IMO that Frank would have been discussing that with are Tabor and Brown. Sure wasn't worded like it was one voice against Frank. And it sure didn't look like the kicker was on board. I don't see Tabor lobbying to kick when his kicker wasn't on board. Tabor has already showed in his interim duties he factors in the environment in his game day decisions. Frank's defense of the decision was pure analytics and practice.

That's still going to be dependent on what his cost is though most likely. If you overpay a largely one dimensional player too much....it impacts what you can do with your defensive roster as a whole. Which is the Burns "problem". I still think Fitterer setup a scenario where Brian Burns walks out the door and we get nothing.

I don't think Burns was actually the best defender last year. He just had sacks. His liability factor counters a lot of that. I think Luvu and Brown actually jumped him last year. It's just carrying over this year. I think 2020 is the only season he was actually the best defender. Which wasn't a good defense.

I don't think it is that hard to replace him. With a horrific coach and outlook.....we easily went out and signed a better pass rusher than him and a better DB than anyone on the roster. It's hard to find a Miles Garrett type edge player that can do it. That's not Burns. In reality, there are lot of dudes that can rush the passer.

Mr. "In on every trade" lol. I'm sure the NFL makes sure of that at this point. No bigger sucker.

I think in Burns' entire career you could argue he was our best defensive player just once in his career in reality....and that ain't been recent. Not sure why folks keep repeating that at this point. Burns just has tenure over others. That's helping play into the narrative he is the best. When was the last time he was actually the best?

Fitt executing his vision in gif form

Gilmore was one of those oddities IMO you just have to take advantage of. Like Tolbert. Think Gilmore was willing to just be near his family and was looking for that. We were like nah, we got a glass DB and an inconsistent Jackson. We don't need great and consistent DB play.

I think Richardson had a vision of what he wanted and did chime in on that. I don't think it's an accident that his teams were largely all very similar. Richardson also knew football. I don't think he was hands on outside of making sure the big picture was going to be what it was. I think Tepper thinks he can buy and rent a winner. I think he operates it very much like stocks. Well, I can just buy this one, sell that one. Profit overnight. I also think he operates on selling fools gold to his fans. Oh they are unhappy? Well, I'll trade for the #1 pick and hype up a bunch of stuff. The foundation remains bad. The plan remains bad. Love it or hate it, there has been no vision or plan in Carolina since Ron/Cam walked out the door. They had a plan. They had a vision. They committed to it. It worked to some degree. Fox was the same.

for me, the worst part is, this org has had no vision or horrific plans ever since folks like Fitterer arrived. everything is that. Love or hate Teddy, keeping him and drafting a QB made sense. They messed that up. Then the Sam Darnold era made zero sense. Instead of a depth chart project he was THE plan. Then they have Cam save us from our nightmare move that frankly made zero sense outside of getting fans off their back so they/we could have that farewell with him...and then they didn't even give us that. Then the pointless Baker era. Then the dysfunctional trade the farm for Bryce Young and give him no weapons or weapons that don't fit what he would be doing because somehow, because he doesn't need them. Scott Fitterer IMO wasn't qualified to come into a weak front office and build a team because he was a weak candidate to begin with. Came in here and IMO has thought he could somehow create some discount version of the Seattle LOB team. I think Horn was Fitterer. That's always what made sense. Think Bryce was Fitterer. Think the mindset you can have a discount O with a small QB and heavily invest in your D is Fitterer. But it was a whack vision. Seattled pimped Russell and the LOB. What made it actually work IMO was the ground and pound of Lynch. Dominant run game paired w/ a fluke D (in terms of how it all came together and how good it was. You can't build that intentionally).

Still think the bad needs to include making Sam Darnold THE plan. Picking up his 5th year for no reason.

Imagine if Thomas Davis didn't blow up his knee and we didn't waste his first couple years as at S. Davis might be 1b. with Luke.

I viewed TD as much more impactful than Beason. Not just leadership but role on the D. Beason was more of a tackle machine than anything. That was his trademark #. Tackles. He had some INT too. But for a front 7 player I think Beason still lacked some playmaking. Granted he played MLB but I still thought he was a little light in a lot of areas. Jon Beason finished his NFL career with a total of 4 sacks and 3 FF. I mean, Thomas Davis had more production in one season in those key categories.

really would need to comb through and look at Peppers' seasons because he might have a lot of worthy seasons. Easy to get caught up in the sacks but he has a lot of sneaky stuff like the FG blocks and all that too.