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Why Corbett (and Brady Christensen) will make good Centers
CRA replied to MHS831's topic in Carolina Panthers
Sure, but you can spend limited resources and sign a middle of the road vet C to compete or just backup Corbett. I’m talking just someone that we factual know can do the job. Not someone great that cost money I mean, we have the weakest C plan going into the season of any team in the NFL on paper most likely. Coming off a year where the interior OL play prevented the O from even attempting to function on a high % of downs. It just doesn’t have to be that way. I assume/guess Corbett got too much work to do right now to have a legit C on the roster. A legit C with experience probably outplays him early and they want Corbett to learn and grow into the starting gig. Which could happen. But that’s still a plan with plenty to dislike -
Bar is pretty much set. Playoffs. Pro Bowl. Individual record or award. Every #1 overall QB has hit at least one of those for the last 20+ years by year 2. Real promise. Bryce has to be better. A lot better.
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Why Corbett (and Brady Christensen) will make good Centers
CRA replied to MHS831's topic in Carolina Panthers
That’s seems more like a in season after injury mindset. he didn’t play C in college and hasn’t in the NFL. Coming off a major injury. I still think you just sign an actual real life NFL C to put behind him before the season starts. I just don’t get the gamble without a real sensible plan if it doesn’t work in place. -
Why Corbett (and Brady Christensen) will make good Centers
CRA replied to MHS831's topic in Carolina Panthers
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Do You Agree With The Neglect of the Offensive Line from This Draft???
CRA replied to Hoenheim's topic in Carolina Panthers
I'm not factoring cap hit. or probably the very good relationship with our front office given his role here off the field. Ignore the team. Ignore the players. If a team had horrific OL play up the middle last year and the proposed solution is to insert someone at C who has never played it a snap in a NFL or college game. I just think that's a bad sounding plan. I'm not expecting them to solve every problem. I'm just asking they add an actual NFL C to the roster for if their plan doesn't work. Just an average guy. And not do it in season after the plan doesn't work. -
Do You Agree With The Neglect of the Offensive Line from This Draft???
CRA replied to Hoenheim's topic in Carolina Panthers
they would have at least had a collegiate career playing C. Corbett doesn't even have that. but I don't really care about them not drafting a C. I want them to bring in a cut vet C. It's pointless to of spent all that money at G and not have an actual C. Silly gamble. If the C play is bad the entire middle of the OL is going to be a mess. Again. -
Do You Agree With The Neglect of the Offensive Line from This Draft???
CRA replied to Hoenheim's topic in Carolina Panthers
but didn't that mean, they were planning on moving him to C....but he never has actually played C in a NFL game. -
once we drafted JStew I felt we had to let DWill walk once they paid DWill I thought you had to let JStew walk but that made you a hater. In real time, everyone loved those dudes. They were interreacting with fans and all sorts of stuff. Can't remember the details but I feel they had a little online fanclub thing and were sort of early to the online engagement.
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yeah, Sanders just highlights how important OL is....and pretty much supports the narrative that largely if you solve OL issue you solve your run issues. The is no shortage of RBs that can run behind actual good OL play. Sanders was running through huge holes in Philly. And was basically league average once he saw contact back there. I mean, yeah, a CMC or Adrian Peterson is nice. But largely I think teams should just focus on the OL.
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Do You Agree With The Neglect of the Offensive Line from This Draft???
CRA replied to Hoenheim's topic in Carolina Panthers
what about the 3rd best C for a RB -
Bryce’s arm issues in the NFL aren’t just seen deep. Even basic out routes. If Bryce Young isn’t set….he doesn’t really have a NFL caliber arm to do what we have come to expect in today’s NFL IMO from #1 overall caliber QBs I keep saying I think Bryce in a good scenario can eventually be good. And I have been on record since before last kicked off we weren’t doing what we should to help him succeed when people were fanboying over the all star staff, Miles Sanders , etc. So I don't think I am a true Bryce hater. But his tools limit his ceiling.. I just don’t see how we can’t accept that. It’s not his fault but the reality is the situation is he was drafted #1 overall….and it comes with different judgement and criteria vs other QBs IMO.
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I don’t know about that….when we drafted him I basically conceded we would largely be playing small ball. That’s just what I have always thought Bryce was going to be. A dink and dunk PG. Playing a version of old Drew Bree’s’ game but maybe not that extreme. To date, I think that’s supported. Bryce might of thrown some deep balls on a stacked Bama roster in college but even then it wasn’t really his thing and his accuracy was bad. He doesn’t have the NFL tools to really challenge downfield as part of his bread and butter in the NFL. He isn’t going to be a chunk yardage. Not sure why anyone would want to be trying that. That’s not playing his strengths. I just feel it’s more bad marriages. And we are doing what we do. Convincing ourselves it isn’t what it is. But I do concede Canales is young and we don’t know his OC. So maybe they will switch it up and not be what we have seen from then. I just think Leggette is a sign that it isn’t the case.
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I mean all we got is what we got on him. And you can trace it back to Seattle. Wilson is a downfield thrower. Always a heavy/top air yard QB going downfield. That’s the Canales background and resume to date. I mean, I would think if the goal was to do something new catering to Bryce vs doing what you do….you would’t draft Leggette with your first pick. Basically an Evans/DK deep ball guy and draft some route runner like Ladd to get the ball out quick.
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Panthers Select Jonathan Brooks RB - 46th Pick, Round 2
CRA replied to Bear Hands's topic in Carolina Panthers
Baker lead the NFL in pass attempts of 20+ air yards. and it’s not hard to see how Canales gets their after all that time in Seattle. Wilson was a chuck it downfield guy. Only thing I don’t get in this Bryce era….is what the heck they keep pairing up. Maybe Canales is so young he totally creates a Bryce O. To date, it looks like a really bad match -
Panthers Select Jonathan Brooks RB - 46th Pick, Round 2
CRA replied to Bear Hands's topic in Carolina Panthers
It’s just modern day Foxball with a heavy dose of 11 personnel IMO. and I think what really makes it modern day Foxball. is how they pass off it. Which is chunk plays downfield. and Canales #1 pick is the perfect fit for what he did in Tampa. I mean, no WR in the draft probably is a better fit for that brand of ball. -
Panthers Select Jonathan Brooks RB - 46th Pick, Round 2
CRA replied to Bear Hands's topic in Carolina Panthers
I mean, his O is literally on film from last year. They stubbornly ran the ball mediocrely and then had Baker chuck it downfield off that. He is more John Fox than Mike Shannahan. Frank had no secret offense. Neither likely does Canales. -
Panthers Select Jonathan Brooks RB - 46th Pick, Round 2
CRA replied to Bear Hands's topic in Carolina Panthers
I think he was zone to start last year and the O was horrible. Think they shifted and it went to okay. But yeah, his O last year was very Fox/Delhomme-ish, Which big picture might make even less since then Frank for Bryce. It’s lives off the deeper shots off run -
Good thing we paired with Canales….who needed his QB to lead the NFL in 20+ air yard attempts last year
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Canales wasn’t exactly running something new age last year. Offense probably more built for Jake Delhomme than Bryce Young. it wasn’t a very good or efficient O….that was largely kept alive by Baker chucking it downfield. He lead the league in pass attempts 20+ yards in air downfield. Leggette is 100% a match. Bryce? Nothing IMO about his offense last year screams Bryce Young
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I mean, but that's because those #1 overall picks..... did something. Trevor - playoffs by year 2 Burrow - playoffs by year 2 Murray - OROY and Pro Bowl by year 2 Baker - Rookie record for TDs Goff - playoffs by year 2 Winston - OROY and Pro Bowl year 1 Luck - OROY and Pro Bowl by year 1 Cam -OROY and Pro Bowl by year 1 Bryce has to actually live up to the field to be treated like the field. Plenty of first round QBs in recent history have been given up on between 1 and 2 seasons.
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Panthers Select Xavier Legette WR - Pick 32, Round 1
CRA replied to Bear Hands's topic in Carolina Panthers
that's what worries me. short term at least. last year, my go to phrase was bad marriages.....I think that defines why everything went so poorly for Bryce. I don't see Leggette as the asset to Bryce that he would be for say....even a really bad PJ Walker type QB. I hope Canales focuses on scheme up players and that Thielen gets rotated out of the slot at a heavier rate than last year. I think given what the younger players can do with the ball in their hands....we need to help them get involved with some early down slot work at times. -
the Rams don't give a rip about draft picks. this draft aside, McVay has never had a 1st round pick in his career and paired that with missing his 2nd a couple years on top of no 1st. They got 2 NFC Championships and Super Bowl during that window. Under valuing them has at least worked for them overall.