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Riverboat Ron to the ACC joining Bill.

I'm glad my son watched this show because it sort of shined the light on some aspects of these hero athletes. They are just human as the next person. Throughout the show, Cam and Tate often showed they got some straight up weaknesses and flaws (some sort of surprising) that he didn't seem to expect. Tate often was rattled. Cam ultimately letting a bucket of water get the best of him was a surprise to him too. out of all the people on the show, in a survival setting....the BMX dude was probably the guy you wanted. Out of the ladies, probably Kelce's old girl

Burns was also coming off a season where the passing rushing specialist who sucked vs the run was tied for 37th in sacks.

3 seasons, 3 straight 1000+ seasons. You might not get a top 10 for him but he is easily worth a first round pick.

I think most of the league is driven by paychecks/security.

Kupp>>>>>>>>AT

True but it wasn’t like he put up some one in a decade type season for his MVP…. the D did something unique

Winning MVP isn't really an individual award in reality. Cam doesn't sniff that award without the 2015 Panthers D doing the work they did. Cam completely 59% of his passes that year and was 16th in passing yards...leading what wasn't technically a top 10 offense given they are ranked by yardage. And at the time, he was logging his worst yards per carry since arriving into the league. The team did have a lot of TDs. A massive part of why they had a lot of TDs was the defense ***No defense in the last 10 years has had more takeaways than that unit Now, I'm not really trying to poop on Cam by saying that. I just don't think individual awards in the ultimate team sport carry the weight some give them.

Why does he have trade careers? I bet he would swap that league MVP for a Lombardi. He doesn’t have to give up the actual season he had. Just the award. Think the Lombardi would move him higher up the GOAT list than the MVP does with everything else being the same

reality is, winning his MVP is a team accomplishment he gets all the credit for. I mean I get what he was attempting to say. I think Jonathan Jones pretty much nailed why Cam wasn't exactly right in his argument. Not saying he is really wrong though.

Would you give back your MVP award for a Super Bowl win? Cam Newton: No.

Tom Brady and Josh Allen could have played for Bama and no one could have predicted what he would have become. Think they just had a longer development window that was going to be in play. Mahomes? Who knows. I could see him being the GOAT prospect at Bama and I also could see Saban hating Mahomes keeping him on the sideline for another prospect. So much of what makes Mahomes is risky/dumb play that just seems to always work out….and a coach like Saban would have hated that lol.

Yeah, as I said…on paper, you can’t really come up with a QB with a better resume in all of college football the last 10 years and then some. And at the same time, Trevor wasn’t even the best actual QB at Clemson during that span. You deep dive into say his freshamn year which ended with Trevor beating that Bama team the media was going to crown the greatest team of all time when they won……and Clemson had to insert Kelly Bryant into games that year to basically get the win for a streaky Trevor. Trevor was never Luck in reality. He always had the dumb plays mixed in his entire career.

True. But Trevor was still that dude largely in the college playoff. And every team they saw minus Notre Dame was more talented. his resume….IMO is the best college resume of the last decade. so you take that plus his tools and I get the generational talk. But as I said, he wasn’t even the best Clemson QB of that decade. Resume and play aren’t the same things

Trevor also has a lot of injuries creeping on him the last 2 years. Wouldn’t be surprised if he takes the intentional short career route of his own choosing. Seeing that more and more. He is a smart kid and from the jump he sees beyond football.

Trevor had the generational resume though. 3 seasons, 3 undefeated regular seasons. Only 2 Ls that came in the playoffs. And he checked every physical box. but he wasn’t as good as Watson at Clemson.

all I know is the couple clips of the Jags new HC.....man does he come off poorly. Well, Trevor...you will always be a Clemson GOAT/college footbal GOAT. You at least have that. This dude ain't saving your floundering NFL career.

I frankly love Jake Delhomme. But yeah, I love him today. I love his story. Loved he made the average dude think, hell....maybe. I liked he gambled. I liked pre Tommy Jone attitude. In real time? I didn't love Jake. I often screamed at him the moment he launched up a deep ball downfield because it was so often a poor decision that somehow would work out to 89 in triple coverage. There was a magic to Jake that is best appreciated after he was done playing. Which I do. But there is some revisionist history on how much the fanbase loved him in real time of his career.

hog mollies. dawgs. one of us. yeah, I agree. How about let's not draft projects, injured guys, etc. Draft dudes that can help ASAP

Time made Jake more beloved IMO than he was in real time.

yeah, I keep getting that stuff wrong. He got in the first time he was a finalist. Which is where Luke is now right.

you right, glanced a pfr and misread the vote placement as a win.

their resume's are virtually identical. Like crazy identical. Same PB, AP, DROY, DPOY. Willis' stats slant to the pass rush (sacks) and Luke's to coverage (INTs).

I think specifically, Joe Brady not figuring out the short yardage game. I think the rest of it was fine. KC clearly figured out the their short yardage play from the jump of that game. Buffalo seemed so sure it was their own auto yard getter they had no adjustment in the back pocket. almost feel like playcallers should just have the national broadcast running. Romo from the jump was like yep, KC figured that out on film and made adjustment. all that being said, I think the refs still tilted the final result to the KC more so than Brady costing them the game if I had to pick between the 2.

Sanders at #1 and Milroe at #3 seems insane. I like TMAC in a vacuum but I want D