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I mean his improvement has been good. To an extent I hit a wipe out button like I did for Trevor year 1. So this was Bryce’s rookie season redo. Sort of looked like what he thought we were getting. but this top 10, already ahead of Jake Delhomme, is just standard huddle over reach seen over and over.

But yeah, you basically are now getting down to my 4 starts out of 28 argument. That’s 7 games. 2 he was bad in. So that’s now down to 5. AZ was really just a game of Connor vs Hubbard to me and Connor got hurt. We won. So then there were 4. And 4 out of 28…..just isn’t the resume to back some of this noise. Even if I just give folks AZ and pretend it wasn’t just pedestrian NFL play.

My critical thinking skills tell me, people are essentially cherry picking Bryce down to 4 games out of 28 starts and saying the rest is irrelevant to make their argument…..because even cherry picked post benching, most of his starts were below average. Bryce is still a pretty wildly inconsistent player. As he should be. He had a great game today. His improvement from the dumpster fire has been nice. But it’s not being miserable to simply choose not to ride the enthusiasm wave too far. I didn’t think Sam Darnold was in the MVP talks, I didn’t think Robbie Anderson was better than DJ Moore, and so on forever. Bryce doesn’t have the resume to back the checks people are now willing to write. I have seen this show a billion times before. Simple as that.

Yeah that’s not real argument though. You change everything in your favor and yet it’s all still supposed to play out all the same way for the other side? KC has just been playing up and down with folks all year. Philly had a bad day. And on and on. Plus if opponents did the same type logic in our wins do we still count those? but back to the point, you aren’t really making that argument. You are just saying the D sucked D. Which isn’t an argument that Bryce Young out clutched Jake Delhomme in Carolina….when Bryce hasn’t even caught 1 season of GW drives by Jake in 28 starts. Jake had straight up magic in them early days.

I’m not comparing their teams. I didn’t bring them up. I didn’t bring Jake up. I responded to someone claiming Bryce Young has already out clutched Jake Delhomme…. so you think Bryce Young has already outlclutched Jake Delhomme Charlotte?????. Bryce in 28 starts trails Jake’s 2003 season alone in GW drives. What’s the argument Bryce had out clutched him then? That’s the convo. the Bryce folks just get silly with it. And when you point out they go too far you are hating lol

This is why Bryce is perceived by some to have more haters than he does….because the folks super high on Bryce take it too far over and over and we can’t resist addressing it. Bryce Young has not already out clutched Jake Delhomme. Adding today as a GW drive….Bryce has 6 GW drives in 28 starts. Which hasn’t even caught him up to Jake’s 2003 seasons worth of GW drives.

Richardson is essentially the one young QB I am certain Bryce will be better than.

A large segment of that cast is still here. it’s why the real problem is just Tepper. Over and over it shows. Time and time again people sort of move away from it. I think we are now on the 3rd variation of Tepper finally stepped back. It’s never true.

Yeah, you just use their careers. Everything. We are only allowed to talk about Bryce through the lense of like 4 games

I personally don’t like the years they do sucky play as what you comeback from…..but if they do that variant of the award, Sam Darnold going to run away with it. That sells to the national fanbase easy.

No but we are talking QB play. Which is why I referenced them having more offensive production. so what’s the argument Bryce is better if we aren’t using offense production? and really, QBs with horrific D should have inflated O production. Because you are in score mode or better yet garbage time all season.

Bryce won 4 games this season with pedestrian/middle of the pack production on the year. I mean they sometimes award that for sucking and then being good….but that would be wild as hell to give it to Bryce off that

Give Frank Canales’ OL and Frank wins 5 or so games. Oh, and if Tepper allowed Frank to bench Bryce like Dave was? Might of won 7ish last year with Dalton and that OL But Frank sucks. But the above is just what he basically proved he was in the NFL. People so high of this one random win they are in excusing Dave Tepper level highness

Tanking is real as far as front offices will make strategic decisions that they hope will yield good draft position in the end. That can be real but the coaches and players (whoever they are), then try to win.

They would have finished the year on a 7 game losing streak if the Bills hadn’t rested starters. Think the decision likely was made before the ball ever kicked off today.

I mean you never want to be the guy that follows a legend. It was his destiny

Bryce finished the year basically being good then bad then good then bad each week. Stafford was injured year 2. Stafford was a monster year 3. 5k passer with 40 TDs. Allen and Hurts were post season year 2 accounting for more offense per game. Not sure what the argument he was better than them is rooted in. Brees year 2 was basically a different league/rules so that comp gets a little weird.

We won 5 games. We have a roster with very limited talent. 6 years in the books and that’s where we find ourselves. We are the worst team in all of pro sports under him. a meaningless win vs Atlanta to close out a season ain’t going to make me dismiss what he has done to us

Penix has been really solid in his 3 starts for a rookie. 300+ yards, 3 TDs in regulation today. Pick was on the WR with a fluke pop up. Every L he has taken as a rookie has been OT. I think the Falcons got a dude. Think you got to put him in with the young dudes

I mean no, as of right now….we were still incredibly dumb to trade up to get him. Just like every team that has done something similar in recent history.

Nice game by Bryce. Very efficient day. *best post 2015 Cam was still Cam though.

People are wanting to judge Bryce by 33% of his starts and it’s below average. Now let’s just do 57% of PJ Walker’s starts.

People have been posting stuff like top 5 (insert cherry pick numbers/timelines) and all sorts of weird stuff. That’s generally when folks start commenting Bryce about being meh. Or implying he is playing great football for a QB and not just for Bryce. I don’t judge him by wins. I judge him by O. And much like the initial reason the OP was made to inflate Bryce….people trash our O roster to help spin things for Bryce.

It’s just deceptive to list total TDs and then list an inaccurate INT #. You would need to list total TDs and total turnovers. Initial breakdown also made sure to not include basic QB stats like comp % because Bryce is well below league average. even a cherry picked Bryce is below average. Which is fine if you view this as his rookie season. Problem is some argue silly stuff like Bryce is playing like a top QB