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Well, I think there is a slight difference between, you should know Lane will move on from you to look out for himself….and you should of known if your school made the CFP with Lane he would ditch you before it started. Hard to see that one coming. but it really highlights how college football is really meaningless and pointless. I mean a coach makes the CFP and is like nope. Not interested…..I need to go to LSU so I can get these kids to what? You certainly can’t sell the idea you are there to help them win a natty lol .

Again, the Bryce stans need to get on the same page. It was just complained about when I didn’t include 2023 on another discussion and left it out. Because they wanted to talk about his growth. the Bryce stans bring up Trevor, not the haters I have never said Trevor is above average lol as a NFL QB. but yes, Trevor can be a headache basket case AND the league leaders in drops can be a big letdown (paired with injury) in a convo where someone calls them great. They have been hurt and dropping the ball unlike any other team. Thats not great weapons at your disposal if they are hurt and not catching

If you are using PFR then you should be able to easily the the dividing league average line.....where Bryce is above and Trevor is below it. It's a big blank space that says league average when you are sorting by bad throw %. You don't really want to go backwards. Bryce was #1 in bad throw % in 2023 Bryce was #1 in bad throw % in 2024 (technically 2 but #1 was Anthony Richardson and he didn't finish out the season) in 2023, 2024, 2025.....Bryce is above league average all 3 seasons in bad throw % and Trevor is below all 3 seasons. Bryce stans need to find something else than thinking Trevor Lawrence somehow makes Bryce Young not bad. It's not working. And no one, even Clemson fans, really want to be in here defending the forever disappointing Trevor Lawrence.

This board must have way more Clemson fans than I give it credit for, the amount of folks that watch all the Trevor Lawrence games is way higher than I would have guessed. #All In! Go Tigers! Jaguars are also 6-1 this season with Trevor's best weapon the field. Which all of us Trevor watchers know isn't BTJ given we watch all his games.

yeah, but this is just some weird technical argument being randomly pulled for Bryce Young. No one in real time was wanting to make sure Philly Brown and Mike Remmers were probably credited. They were called weak links that we overcame and still succeeded with on that magical run. this bad technical defense had you saying Rex Grossman deserved the credit for taking the Bears to the Super Bowl when we all know the world was amazed they pulled off such a feat with a bad QB. Bryce Young does play a key position on the team, and it is amazing the Panthers have been able to win what they have despite such weak QB play. it hard to win WITH Bryce Young playing a key role on this team. Panthers deserve credit for pulling that off. It's not something people should want to do going forward because lady luck can only do so much and come and goes.

Andy Reid couldn't wait to get rid of Alex Smith (win every season KC Smith) and his checkdown, not making the throws downfield self. the goal isn't to technically log a winning season. It's to craft a team that can be the best in the NFL (without catching a fluke season to make it happen). KC was never going to be the best team in the NFL with Alex Smith (even if they won a Super Bowl off luck)

I know people like to deem me the ultimate Clemson homer, but I rarely have ever been a fan of most first round type Clemson players. Clemson has had a lot of DL players in the past decade or so go pro and go in the first round. I have to say, this current group at Clemson is the least impressive bunch to come out of Clemson. Woods never lived up to his hype at Clemson.

Off-target/bad balls generally don't meet the criteria for a drop. I mean two things can be true. The Jags skill positions players have been a big let down this year.....and Lawrence can be headache. Trevor is below league average in bad throw % though. Bryce as always, above it despite playing less aggressive. I mean, Bryce being at the top in bad throw % is the really wild part because he isn't playing aggressive dumb ball look so many QBs are willing to. I feel Bryce Young people are fixated on Trevor being a thing to use....but it just is too forced. I mean, they have being a bad picks in common but that's it.

Jags lead the NFL with 36 drops (many have been huge ones). That supporting cast has been really bad (and hurt) on the year. Trevor is just Trevor. A lab built QB that plays aggressive/dumb. He will have 5 seasons under his belt by years in with 3 different HCs.....and just 2 losing seasons. Trevor is a disappointment in terms of being a #1 overall pick. But he is middle of the road NFL starting QB.

I mean, I could explain it again. I didn't post a select group in reality, I compared all 12 starts from this season, to all 12 starts from last season. That is the legit head to head comparison. and when you do that, there is no improvement in his individual production. It's worse in yards, scores, and turnovers. So he did not improve if the argument is stats/individual production. when you look a the collective number on the year and then look at per game stats shown.....the fact he stepped on a field when benched for 3 plays at the end of a game and had -4 yards yards skews the per game stats. So you isolate the starts.

All the Bryce stans have always said we should forget 2023 existed as it's unfair to look at it. Now you want it just for the sake of showing the jump from practice squad worthy to backup worthy? ok. noted. the reason you compare the starts (12 vs 12) and omit the 2 token garbage time appearances in 2024, those skew the per game averages. For example, from a per game scenario, it would be logging him as playing a NFL game with -4 pass yards in a game and treating that as a game. which is why you look at starts (12 vs 12 games) 2024 - 195 pass yards per game, 20 rush yards per game, 21 TDs, 11 turnovers 2025 - 194 pass yards per game, 10 rush yards per game, 19 TDs, 13 turnovers which clearly isn't "pretty much improved" in basically any of the primary categories of production. It's worse in all the big ones. Yards, scores, and turnovers. if you want to make a Bryce is better in 2025 argument than last year. Cool. It's not in his individual production stats that matter though.

Bryce as a starter (12 games vs 12 games). Sets up perfectly given the week we fall on. 2024 - 195 pass yards per game, 20 rush yards per game, 21 TDs, 11 turnovers 2025 - 194 pass yards per game, 10 rush yards per game, 19 TDs, 13 turnovers

Oh, so not individual performance/production. So you can have less production, more turnovers.....but if the team wins, you are better. so Xavier Legette is better this year? or is this a Bryce exclusive that winning trumps individual performance/production? and I'm more of an eyeball guy. And Bryce is pretty much the same dude as last year off that. The defense and rush attack has looked different. And when you get clear improvement from units and other things stay the same. More wins is normally the outcome.

Dan Morgan and his team are part of the brain trust that brought us Bryce Young. Same dream team that could only find Jack Plummer as a young body to be in house this summer.

as a starter (12 games vs 12 games). Sets up perfectly given the week we fall on. 2024 - 195 pass yards per game, 20 rush yards per game, 21 TDs, 11 turnovers 2025 - 194 pass yards per game, 10 rush yards per game, 19 TDs, 13 turnovers that sure looks like less offense and more turnovers this year vs last year as the starting QB. I mean, you don't have to call it worse. Not sure how you get better out of it.