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This Bryce Guy (General BY Discussion in Here)
CRA replied to Bear Hands's topic in Carolina Panthers
or…..you just move on from him. You don’t get the team deeper into an already clear mistake. Which a lot of teams have recently done with QBs that don’t have it. -
Teddy is super hard to place. I got no issue with that take. I probably messed the Teddy one up. Right there with Sam seems right
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Dude literally had one pass in him lol. If memory serves that pass basically ended that
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Ranking is purely in a Panther uniform. Everything else wiped from existence
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never logged a start
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Matt Moore is a really weird and tough one. Moore starting as the backup and then when he actually went out there as the week 1 starter. Real mixed bag. and sure, I don't care if someone wanted to flip flop PJ and Bryce. Whether they flip or flop, the range is the range IMO.
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CRA started following CRA's All Time Panther QB Rankings
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Factoring only their time as a Carolina Panther QB. 1. Cam Newton 2. Jake Delhomme 3. Steve Beuerlein 4. Kerry Collins 5. Sam Darnold 6. Matt Moore 7. Kyle Allen 8. Rodney Pete 9. Teddy Bridgewater 10. PJ Walker 11. Bryce Young 12. Derek Anderson 13. Baker Mayfield 14. Vinny T 15.. Frank Reich 16. David Carr 17. Jimmy Clausen 18. Chris Weinke not ranked are Heinke, Fasani, Lytle, St. Pierre as they all had 2 or less starts.
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This Bryce Guy (General BY Discussion in Here)
CRA replied to Bear Hands's topic in Carolina Panthers
PJ's completion % was 63% when starting games in Carolina. Which I believe is better than Bryce when starting. And again, 4-3 as the starter here and the LONE QB Carolina has been able to actually win with in the Tepper era. If you ask a gambling gunslinger to come into blowouts.....they are going to go down in a blaze of glory. Which he would do. Yeah, he isn't good. And gunslingers are supposed to have rockier stats than checkdown QBs. So....why does PJ Walker have a better comp % as a starter than Bryce Young. And for every knock you want to make about PJ, you can find something or a skillset that PJ does better than Bryce. I didn't say PJ had good field vision. He doesn't. Tell me about Bryce after he comes off the first read lol. Let me repeat, PJ Walker is not a good QB. He is NFL depth and an in house arm. Bryce Young doesn't belong in a convo w/ Jake and Cam. He belongs closer in a convo with the backup caliber QBs Carolina was forced into playing. Which isn't just PJ Walker. But Kyle Allen. Moore. Guys like that. -
Young QBs lead their teams to undefeated October
CRA replied to KaseKlosed's topic in Carolina Panthers
Bryce Young hasn't cleared 200 passing yards in a single game in that window. Meanwhile, Rico Dowdle has put together the greatest 5 game stretch of rushing production in Panthers history. And RBs have sort of been our thing, so there is ample competition. This team hasn't been lead by Bryce Young in that stretch. Those wins are simplistically 3 things. Schedule, Rico, and defense. -
This Bryce Guy (General BY Discussion in Here)
CRA replied to Bear Hands's topic in Carolina Panthers
I mean, you didn't contradict anything. I've said he is a bad QB. We went 4-3 with PJ Walker as the starter. The lone human that we have managed to win around in the Tepper era. Sure, he is a bad QB and turns the ball over.....but I already said he was a bad QB. His ceiling of good is higher than Bryce. That's true. Better tools and more threatening. There bads are comparable. Bryce just can settle in to a level of non-threatening and nothing play that PJ can't. He is more non-stop rollercoaster riding. But again, PJ is more fun to watch....with a higher ceiling. The fact is, if you are to accurately talk about the QB tier Bryce falls in.....the PJ Walker, Kyle Allen, types come into the convo. Which says all you need to say about Bryce. -
I’m still riding with Ked Woodley as the GOAT Panther fan rapper
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This Bryce Guy (General BY Discussion in Here)
CRA replied to Bear Hands's topic in Carolina Panthers
PJ Walker is more enjoyable to watch than Bryce Young. And has a higher ceiling. How bad can it get with either? About the same. Young probably more consistently able to into the state of disappearing and not being a pro or a con. reality is, the fact Bryce Young has survived as bad as he is….means there is really no comp you can make with him -
This Bryce Guy (General BY Discussion in Here)
CRA replied to Bear Hands's topic in Carolina Panthers
You are correct. 2 weeks in his career and in both games to that put Carolina up by a game he played poorly. I would take the Joe Burrow ride all day long over Bryce. Same for Dak. It’s basically arguing what is more enjoyable…..the Richardson era or the Tepper era. The answer is easy -
This Bryce Guy (General BY Discussion in Here)
CRA replied to Bear Hands's topic in Carolina Panthers
In Young’s entire career, he has been able to boast of belonging to a team with a winning record for…….1 week. This week. you doing insane work here bruh. Gotta be boredom trolling at this point -
Going into the final drive of a NFL game....Bryce Young had 9 completions for 83 yards. In a NFL game. We shouldn't be talking about how "technically" QBs gets credited with GWDs......we should be talking about the absurdity of how the cast around Bryce is able to pull off wins with essentially nothing from the QB spot. Bryce is basically The Golden Calf of Bristol and his defenders are Skips.
