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yeah....based on your response, you didn't listen to the video shared. I know that, because you just made a bunch of assumptions that the clip is taking positions it didn't and views what Person wrote incorrectly. Which it doesn't. If you watched the clip, he makes sure there is no confusion about what Joe is actually saying in his article but it's still a response to Person's article and explains why he/others people become forced into hater positions. Still worth a listen.

I mean I can agree that Fields is worse under the narrative he has tools to be better. It would like if Cam and Jimmy Clausen gave you about the same level of production. Cam in theory is worse because he is Julius Peppers playing QB with a different ceiling. But all things considered, Bryce and Justin Fields offer teams that same thing (all though they go about it different). Below average QB play and we have seen both long enough to know it isn't worth pretending they can be what either were drafted to be.

the team that drafted him washed their hands of him after 3 years. Bryce would get chances after Carolina. But Fieldswill be 1 year stops until teams just admit he is at best a backup. Fields is even weirder than Bryce. He is ever so slightly more efficient and individually productive than Bryce but call it a push. Both are basically these one read QBs that can't really play and make reads into zone. But Fields forever has some legit elite physical tools (his legs) that people keep wishing would allow them to solve the puzzle. for me, Bryce, Fields, and those types fall below even the Mitch Trubisky tier. Which is a young dude w/ no reality of being more than a middle tier QB but actually is one (while the others are below bottom tier).

Fields really didn’t. He got the same. 3 years. Bears said no more. Now he is a one year bounce around guy. Fields and Bryce are the same tier QB.

What you were told about Bryce is over the last 3 seasons he has been the worst….which is really a statement about QBs who also have played over the past 3 seasons. did someone like Anthony Richardson play within that window and was worse? Yeah. Those guys you can name worse had their opportunity taken away because they were deemed bad or have yet to be given in the league long enough to even have to opportunity (so like a bad rookie). QBs that are as unimpressive as Bryce don’t get the 3 season opportunity

wasn't he like co-starter with Drew Hensen most of his last season. It was some weird alternate QB thing going on at Michigan. I don't know, I just googled and co-pilot spit out 10. I don't think it qualifies as 2 legit seasons at Michgian though but maybe it is more than that AI spit out. Going for the quick and easy has given me 3 different numbers lol.

The Panther GOAT probably had 14 division 1 starts The NFL GOAT I think had like 10 starts in college. football is just a weird. But outside of the most extreme outliers....you know after 2-3 years of opportunity if someone is special or not. If you are debating at the end of year 3 if they are even a middle tier game manager? Well, that puzzle got solved.

heck, without the huge gambles of going for it on 4th down (which isn't really normal work).....he would have been 130 in the last game. Because those 2 huge passes barely got him to 200. Which would have been sub 150 in 4 of the last 6 games and under 200 in 5 of the last 6. I mean, this season is what it is. And I can celebrate finding any which way to win. That's cool. But acting like this is good play and production from a NFL QB 3 years in remains a wild thing and even wilder thinking this is a good path/plan going forward. once again, it's really just one Atlanta game as the actual outlier really. and 1 game outliers vs the rest isn't an indication a QB might be able to be a franchise QB

Response to the Person article and a pretty good explanation of how people are forced into being “haters” of Bryce Young by the really bad Bryce takes

I still think “we” sort of operate with a good for Tepper Carolina overall kindset feels like we are forever trying to get back to the Fox/Ron level we were so eager to be done with.

I think the board feels one way today overall (remove the extremes). lose the next 2 games? I’m not sure the middle is going to feel the same about a lot of things and decisions

Apples and oranges. No one is coming for Jon Snow and the neutral party when they compliment Bruce when it is just normal talk about a game. Which is the literal picture you are trying to paint above. I mean that’s exactly what you argued. if you start a thread that is about the future of the franchise at QB going forward at QB and what we should do or are thinking! Yeah, the anti Bryce crowd is going to very vocal on that thread because the literal topic is extending Bryce and the future at QB (which is what an anti Bryce position is literally about. Moving on. The future) This thread? I literally called out people in their feelings wanting to make this about Bryce and their hurt feelings eroding over. You can find where I literally calls them out go make another Bryce thread if they didn’t want to talk Saints and the most relevant thing about them. And the thread went exactly as we all knew it would. Bryce deserved player of the week talk for Atlanta. I have always acknowledged his great games. A shame there are only two

No, I mean the Bryce Brigade is a very select group. The haters are not coming for Jon Snow because he compliments Bryce’s 4th down throws lol.

I refuse to watch the OG 2 Gloved QB David Carr ever again. But for the OP, Carr is the 3rd #1 overall draft pick QB that has played for us. Well, the first. We just didn’t draft that one. but this post was informative. Now I understand why you have more tolerance than I with our current QB