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2 things 1. Bryce has gotten more time and opportunity than literally every QB you named 2. You went to a prior era where QBs got more time than today’s NFL (and again, Bryce has gotten more time and opportunity than everyone you named) Bryce - 40 starts and counting Gabbert - 27 starts and the Jags ended it Russell - 25 starts and the Raiders ended it Locker - 23 starts and the Titans ended it the team around Bryce has gotten significantly better. Bryce is more the same than he is different. Tune in this week, as we count down late in the 4th quarter to see if Bryce can somehow manage to crack 200 yards!! I mean you don’t have to tune in for that. Odds say he won’t because it’s a really rare feat him. As a 3rd year player there is a 75% chance he won’t.

As you attempt to lose people in your lengthy posting….remember your initial disagreement was our RBs aren’t better. And that’s a reference to our skills position players in the backfield. We are just flat out better there. And you are for some reason trying to manifest Rico into this injured player while trying to elevate a clearly down Kamara via some hot tub machine point remains, ask legit NFL fans if they would rather have the Panthers backfield in 2025 or the Saints. It’s easily Carolina. As most NFL fans arent playing gymnastics to try paint Bryce in a worse position than Shough. one team has a good rushing attack and on has weak rushing attack. You can type 8,000 words and it won’t change that.

That’s the unique Bryce only scale of improvement . He isn’t getting #1 pick leeway. He is getting we gave up the farm for him leeway (which there are very few comps of). there is no major progression. Team around him has gotten better. Bryce has been a very consistent player in all honesty.

Because guys slightly worse than Bryce or slightly better…..don’t get to be starter vs 3 straight seasons. They all come and go. Thats how he is the worst starting QB since he was drafted. Players worse or close to him….go away and he remains. so is he better than JJ? Sure. But JJ will go away. Just like a Spencer Rattler. So they don’t get to compete for the worst over a window of time….where they only exist for a season. so you could say Cam Ward is the worst QB in 2025 Bryce remains the worst from 2023 to date. Anyone as bad is gone. and Ward’s draft status likely won’t give him Bryce’s time. Bryce get extra for being way more than a #1 overall blunder. He was multiple.

You almost need guys to have their brains oddly wired in a bad way…..for them to make boatloads of cash and not walk away when the injury bug starts knocking hard. I mean Luck and Luke had one thing in common. They are very smart humans. Probably too smart for the NFL.

Bryce logic is just The Golden Calf of Bristol logic boss. It’s the same Skip Bayless argument doesn’t matter he isn’t very good. Doesn’t matter he is why they are so often down. Doesn’t matter he doesn’t really generate offense. We got some really odd ball wins and there are some are some random late plays…it’s just a repackaged Tebowmania argument. But more bland. It’s a run game and D carrying the QB…..and wanting to over credit the QB

I mean, that’s sort of the point. We all know the Skip logic was garbage and that’s why Tim is on TV. Yet here we are….acting like Brycemania is something different

Didn’t do it every time for Bryce’s Didn’t do it every time with PJ Walker. But pending the convo, sometimes it was warranted in certain convos and discussions. I would assume the Panthers aren’t spending lots of time on the 2 games he game in during the 4th and 3rd q during film study… and are spending most of their time studying the games he started in.

yeah, and in this case, people wanted to talk about a full time starter vs a guy that had garbage time games mixed in. I would wager a fun bet, I can find a post of mine, where I did that very thing for Bryce Young last year and edited those games out.

I think without manipulating the data, Gunner is the GOAT

it's not so much my case, as IMO you suggest I am uniquely doing something here for Shough...... but how I simply have always talked about QBs. Specifically, ones that haven't started all season. I have done that with basically everyone for years. I mean, I guess my point is, you can disagree with caring about starts and think backup player garbage time games is just as important of data and shouldn't be separated. I'm just saying I'm not uniquely doing it for Shough. That's what I always do. I have done it with all the Panthers QBs over the years that weren't starters the full season.

we got a guy for that

data manipulation!

of the last 6 games, how many would you say featured good NFL QB play? Jets, Green Bay, New Orleans, Falcons, 49ers, Rams. How is he playing well, if he was not good in 4 of the last 6? It's the recurring trend of letting the last game when it goes okay have drastically too much weight.

really need a thread on the Saints D. Really feels like a large % of Panthers fans dismiss the last Saints game and just some fluke and we will just win this week. There QB and D didn't just play well vs us last time, past several weeks they seem to have really gotten on a good track vs earlier this year. It will be a tough game IMO, just as tough as the Bucs games will be.