The NFL Shield At Midfield

Meyer is partying with coeds and doesn't seem to really give a poo while it seems like Rhule is actually sort of trying. That might actually be even worse.

Side bar but Beason was a 3x Pro Bowler and 1st and 2nd team All Pro playing mostly Mike for the Panthers. I remember they briefly moved him to WLB in 2010 because of Thomas Davis being injured and tried it again in 2013 with the emergence of Kuechly as a dominant MLB. It was basically between him and Patrick Willis (even though Willis played in a different defense) for a few years.

Rhule and Brady would be trying to pass on this Steelers team that's letting Dalvin Cook run for 13 yards every time he touches the ball.

Oh dang, so the last time the Saints lost five in a row was in the mid 2000s? Try to keep up Aints, Carolina did that last year

That was infamous dipshit and moron Jed York's doing. Harbaugh is a jerkoff but he would have us winning and probably quickly. Who knows, a second stint in the NFL might be better than the first. Buuuut yeah he's not leaving Michigan to come here of all franchises.

There were Panther reps in the tunnel after his final game at Stanford and he just ran past us lol

The one who excited me the most was James Goodnight although he was a huge darkhorse. You want to talk about data driven approaches and analytics? How about a literal statistician?

The Panthers were basically as unwatchable at the end of Rivera's tenure here as they are now. His time in Charlotte had run its course, we had some good times, some bad ones, and it was time to move on. If you're a head coach in the NFL you're going to be the one blamed if poo isn't going well. It can be unfair but at any given time there are only 32 of them on a planet of 7.7 billion humans. For some perspective though, John Fox went to Denver and they immediately were tearing the league's ass up. They won 11 straight games in his second season and made a(n admittedly lol worthy) Super Bowl appearance the next year.

Reminds me of when I'd read the Falcons board like 15 years ago and they were having heated debates about DJ Shockley.

You're talking out of both sides of your mouth in this thread and not making any sense. You know the Rivera/Hurney juggernaut cut Heinicke from the Panthers in 2019 right? That should make them bad at evaluating QBs according to your own criteria. Yet you're praising them and saying they should be emulated for "developing" him in ways we haven't developed PJ Walker, even though Walker has been on the Panthers roughly twice as long as Heinicke has been with WFT. As others have pointed out Heinicke was on the bench behind Ryan Fitzpatrick to start the season anyway. If everything had gone to plan he would have never seen the field. If this is such a winning formula we should just sign random FA quarterbacks and "develop" them I suppose. Why would this apply to PJ Walker and not, oh I don't know, Will Grier or some other rando? poo what's Tony Pike been up to? The Patriots cut Heinicke too and I'd wager they're kind of okay at evaluating QBs. Bet Heinicke would have cost less draft capital and been on a cheaper contract than first round pick Mac Jones.

Them and Ratt were the best of the Barbie Metal bands Night Songs has some fuging jams on it, don't @ me

I hope my last post didn't imply that I think the dude is trash or something. He can clearly play in this league and at worst will probably be a Ryan Fitzpatrick or Matt Moore who just seems to hang around the NFL forever, assuming he stays healthy.

There's this narrative that Heinicke was the twinkle in Ron Rivera's eye and he always knew he had something special, just had to let him develop and learn how to be a pro. As if he's been riding the bench there for years and finally got his chance. In reality he had been cut like 50 times and was on the couch when WFT brought him in last year. He figured his NFL career was over and was taking online classes to set up the rest of his adult life. This is similar to how every year somebody says "you know I can think of a guy who was drafted in the 6th round once who turned out to be a pretty good QB... " during the draft. Heinicke is on a magic carpet ride right now and it's a fun story and all that, but for every one of him there are a dozen others who wash out of the league every year and are never heard from again.

Every Browns fan I've ever encountered has been hardcore ride or die. God help the host city when the Dawg Pound comes to town when the Browns are finally in a Super Bowl.

The last few years I've found myself having more fun watching college football than the NFL. For a long time I was an adherent to the notion that pro football was superior due to the higher overall skill level of the players and schematic complexity, but none of that matters if my favorite team is just a drag to watch.

Might re-up on NFL Redzone and get interested in daily fantasy again. I'll always pay attention to the Panthers but watching every second of an utterly non-competitive disaster of a game like we saw Sunday... nah.

So do we win another game? I think for maximum pain we finish with 7 or 8 wins. Just enough to push us out of contention for franchise-changing talent but in the range where some defensive lineman or cornerback or some poo is the "best player available".

fuging whipped in all three phases of the game by a 4-7 team

I bet we inexplicably win that one

That was absolutely nothing, holy fuging poo what an awful call

Some dude named Durham Smythe is wrecking our poo

Zane is solid though, I'll give him that.

lol that's about the luckiest break imaginable, jfc

The 2021 Panthers have looked every bit as bad as the 2010 team at multiple points. Just horrible, can't do fuging anything right. Can't even punt successfully.

Nah we're not tanking, we'll probably win 7 or 8 games and get into great position to draft another DB.