trucpfan

That's all I've read and seen that he's a step ahead of where Micah P was at when he came into the league. And thats because they've trained together and he's been mentored by Micah with that info id want him with our early first pick that's a major impactful player.

Bingo this sht is spot on, turnovers if not us running the ball effectively will do wonders and Bryce scurrying around keeping us moving forward even for a couple yards on 2&10 making 3&6 a very obtainable down and distance. But number 3 would really move the needle for me if anyone of the three can have a breakout game vs this defense it could propel their development towards being a force for next season. I had to quote p claw because below because he fuged up once literally once but Eddy P fuged up twice in the same game those kicks were probably more of a problem then Chubbas fumble honestly you understand a RB will fumble selectively with the amount of carriers he typically gets. But your kicker is supposed to do his job when given opportunity if he misses one ok but we definitely expect him to hit a dam 38 yarder hit that game ovaaa he fuged us way harder then Chubba if you put it into football perspective

He could be there when we pick it's all about how these last few weeks play out. If you mean if the draft order stays the exact same from now until the season's over then ok but realistically there will be changes. I'm hoping we slide to 4th if someone wants to trade up we're in business or if someone trades up in front us at 4 it could go QB -QB- leaving one player before we select. If you've watched NFL drafts like actually watched the draft someone always goes later then expected and others go earlier then predicted. If NE picks before us they're from all accounts taking a OT to protect their new QB. That's Cam Sheduer and then a OT leaving all options available for us. As crazy as it seems he could definitely be available when we pick.

Yea I see them winning one or two games if you watched Mac J when he came in last week, he was like 75% comp rate he played a solid game I’d expect him to play his heart out you never know when you’re getting another chance and this is his chance to shine and I personally hope he plays like a all pro any game to close out the season.

Goes to show why we got rid of him so dam fast. It makes a lot of sense now imagine him being your number one target and expecting a young unestablished QB trying to find his way in the league and this guy is supposed to be your support your go to your voice of reason someone you can look up to for motivation or inspiration lol yea ok we see what he’s about. Glad we moved on so Bryce can play with guys who are willing to play for him and vice versa.

So you proceed to let me have it since I’m asking for it lmfao by saying we’re not talking about a random if….what in your head doesn’t click If statements are not realistic. If statements allow me to say anything and make it sound logical. “If” statements in this forum allow anyone without real statistical evidence or factual proof say anything will or can happen so speak directly to facts without these goofy azz if statements or accept all “if” statements. And to respond to your nonsense he had weapons he had protection. He had a rookie WR playing his first NFL game with Mingo and DJ as his other primary targets. How have either preformed since being traded let’s go deeper into that he had weapons. His top targets(week one) XL 7 targets DJ 6 targets Mingo 5 targets now the rookie has has about 8-9 games before Bryce’s return and we’ve seen XL develop some since the start of the season. And those other TOP weapons have a combined 3 catches in a combined 9 games since being traded. 5 for DJ 4 for Mingo these are the top targets your refer to as who he should have been shining with. Is it all on Bryce or these WRs being actual liabilities and not good players does that matter to you or should Bryce be able to elevate them? Do you really know football or is this my 12 yr old nephew spewing a childish mindset and asking us to accept it as serious football talk. I’ve just seen the post from @Icege It’s sad after being shown actual facts you don’t know what you should be eating crow about buddy grow tf up. It’s ok to be wrong it doesn’t make you a bad guy you’re just wrong about Bryce . You said quote “Bryce can’t throw down field” do you still feel that way? You said a lot of nonsense that has now been proven wrong but we need to keep waiting right ok kool. I can agree with that we need more much more good play before we fully commit for next season, but to act like the progression being shown isn’t impressive as sht. We’re seeing Bryce play good while waiting on more consistency to crown em but you gotta get out of that dark place because living in denial is a bad place to reside.

We’re talking about Mr 30 for 30 I can't comprehend actually choosing a QB who threw 30 picks in one season what’s next??

We’d be a worse team, the mans was given cornerbacks from other teams trash pile basically and started them dam near all year along with a rookie to go with Horn. He’s lost his best player anchor the unit in Brown and get he thought would be ace in the hole Shaq. He’s not the GM not assistant GM he uses the pieces given to him which aren’t to strong. We’re cutting and adding starting DE’s dam near every other week to find somebody willing to actually contribute. I don’t think Evero is the problem in any way here he needs pieces to run his sht effectively. Since Wonnum came back our d has really started to look average or decent while still missing key pieces with weak backups in place.

It’s really going to be very tempting pick because when you’re drafting a LT that high you’d expect him to be a Sewell or Slater type and if you can get that you might be able to substitute a top wr production. But it’s really hard to replicate good protection might take using a TE or RB to chip for help leaving one less playmaker available. I think it’s going to be a close call it’s really about draft positioning and how they project out in the future. I can see where it’s a toss up. Best prospect that helps your team long term. There also other factors to consider like if you drafted a WR early the year before and your Oline struggles you might not go WR again. (NE) Polk might be able to develop into the playmaker they expect after a season of adjusting and growing. You don’t just draft the best prospect you draft according to need and talent level, Hunter is definitely that dude right now but I’ve seen a lot of what does he focus on in the league? He’s good at both but not great at either I’m a fan but I’m not sure who’s a better long term prospect just yet. I agree with you on that our WR group is ok, but what took Burrow from ok to elite adding Chase…What took Tua from average to top seven when healthy adding Tyrek with Waddle and very good coaching I must say. What took Jalen from ok to elite ending up in the big game? Adding a playmaker like AJ Brown with D Smith. If we really want to unlock Bryce we'll add a big time playmaker like TMAC. I’m on build the defense up I understand we need to focus on the d because being last in the league in rush D is pathetic. We have had a lot of injuries overall but even with Brown playing early in the season we got gashed big time. I’m on the draft Graham train if possible by trading back (based off how we finish of course) but yea adding a top notch DT that can do both run stuff and pass rush is a recipe for getting our d back on track. I want to unlock Bryce but I understand what we could be with a dominate Dline. Free agency will be huge for us this year being that we’re flirting with being a good team lately.

And then I read this you’re sounding wilder each response but if….did you say but if…but if I didn’t miss my parlay by one this weekend I would have made 10k off 100 dollars what does that even mean?? But If Bryce had solid protection to start his career he’d be playing like a top 10-12 QB this year. But If he had better weapons right now we’d be talking about 350 yards and 3 tds a game. But you or no one in the world can but if….. but if I didn’t cash out my bitcoin 4 years ago I’d be a millionaire today how dumb do I sound lol let’s not be silly I’m trying to have a half decent conversation about football with real deal fans and you’re hollering BUT IF…. Man knock it off you can say any dam thing with BUT IF like umm….but if the referee called Cotchery catch correctly we win the superbowl lol how do I sound doing your BUT IF…..

lol that’s funny you say that i directly responded to the statement the coaches should eat crow to. Like Im confused about where your signals got crossed but I can clear things up for you since you failed to respond to what a stronger arm gets you, in the first paragraph where I asked what would a per say a 97mph fast ball Jameis W type of strong arm what does that get you? I’m still waiting on that response but my statement was clear you said the coaches should eat crow. My response ” this is just dumb they benched him to help him because he has all the tools but wasn’t playing up to par benched him he focused on his technique and came back and started doing what was expected what crow would they even be eating this is ignorant.” Eating crow is when you’re wrong or you’ve been proven wrong wtf was Canales wrong about? He benched him because he wasn’t preforming up to the standard that he thought could. He then got another chance due to injury and did what was needed, next outing a better performance showing signs of improvement. Followed it up with a good game he’s been on a very short leash eat week because the coach hadn’t seen Bryce be consistently good. Asked about his starting performance vs KC coach says his play is answering the questions we all have. Where in the benching did he say or do anything that we would say dam coach was wrong about that he should be eating crow? Mr comprehension, I broke it down for you so you can’t wiggle out of giving regular response.

Arm is weak? Another useless complaint who gives a flying f… if he makes all the throws accurately idgaf about arm strength. Let’s dive deeper into your complaint no zip on the ball show me a play where his lack of zip cost us anything. Show me a play where his weak arm cost us a completion or because he doesn’t have a Josh Allen cannon he didn’t make the play he needed to make. His 40 yarder down the field to XL two weeks ago was a got d…. dime his throw to AT in the end zone was a dime, his throw to XL 3 weeks ago that the man pulled out his hand was a dime about 30+ yards. What about the one handed grab to AT was a rocket arm needed? You’re logic is so self absorbed your judging the man off what you want him to have and that’s just outright goofy, not judging him off performance not off the talent he’s going against not even the situation he’s facing ex..(4th quarter down by 4 needed a TD) in which he’s outperformed all expectations vs KC vs Giants vs Tampa nobody Gives a f…. about him not having a rocket he’s noodle arm in the last 4-5 weeks has him rated as top 3 QB I think that’s way more Important then satisfying fans need for our QB to possess a cannon these complaints are getting too notch outlandish and quite embarrassing go be a dam Bills fan so your QB can have the strongest arm in the league yet he’s won nothing significant since he’s been in the dam league besides your heart he’s won your heart by having a rocket arm we gotta see what’s his consolation prize for winning arm of the year award. This is just dumb they benched him to help him because he has all the tools but wasn’t playing up to par benched him he focused on his technique and came back and started doing what was expected what crow would they even be eating this is ignorant.

All I’m starting to see is guys making new excuses oh that’s one week oh he’s did it 3-4 weeks in a row wait until it’s a whole year. Like we can’t celebrate his current success and acknowledge his current achievements like this without still waiting for more development. I’m not saying he’s a top anything QB or he’s that guy he’s showing the potential to be a very good QB in the very near future. It’s like he’s going all the things it takes to be considered a good QB and people don’t want to recognize it’s happening. It’s going to be a dark place around here if we happen to get him one more weapon like he’s college running mate in a Jerry Juedy type of player he’ll look like Bama Bryce all dam day which some people can’t fathom that kid who was just throwing ducks, picks, and looking like a JV player playing varsity is now playing like a top 10 QB the last four weeks. I myself am utterly confused but it’s happening and I can’t wait to see more I can’t wait to get Cooker back should elevate our passing game which even more.

My goodness he’s passing the eye test but these metrics make me tip my cap to the young man he’s done what he supposed to as the number one pick he’s progressed tremendously in a short time span. He’s playing like he just got comfortable playing QB and it’s really impressive to see him grow before our eyes especially with the abundance on negativity that we all (myself included) threw at him. Ol Tepper sitting back like I told these mutha….. loll.

Trading back seems like it could give us the pieces we need to put this rebuild in its final stages. Adding another 2nd rounder by trading back with Cin/Browns/Dallas putting us around 9-12 still with a chance to add T M WR-AZ or Graham if he falls or even James P Tenn end who we thought we wanted after last season but he’s dropped a little in from last year to this one but a mid first might be a great place for him to be drafted. Two twos give us a chance to get a stud WR still and a stud DB or safety we’d be young and talented across the board with this kind of drafting but we’ll see in due time.

It seemed like Bryce being tough as a mutha….. last year caught up with him. He took a million hits was pressured every other play last year and it seemed like he was in a rush earlier this season to get the ball out his hand. His confidence was low as it gets, he wasn’t comfortable in the pocket at all and every target he’s had so far has been subpar or below outside of AT. Mingo in Dallas looks like a 7th rd WR, TMJ out the league Ian T being your top TE (yuck) I like D Johnson but he’s not that dude he’s talented can make things happen but being a team player and good teammate matters a lot. Combine those factors and I can see why Bryce struggled earlier. His current group of WRs are trying to make plays for him and the team doesn’t pout or complain if they don’t get the ball in game that helps. His confidence is through the roof he saw Andy standing in the pocket comfortable making plays and realized I can do that trust my line they’re a top 5-7 pass blocking unit trust them.Now he sees he can make plays on this level with decent blocking and a few play makers he’s looked like his normal self. A winner who’s won on all levels I’m not saying he’s Mahomes or anything close it’s just he can play ball at this level but he needs his situation to be set up way better then last year when he had TMJ and DJ Chark being his weak azz to options that’s not going to work for any young QB. I’d say it’s a combination of things obviously coaching being one with the O-line and the new hungry play makers we’ve acquired roll that up and you have what we’ve seen lately a young QB learning his way around the NFL and looking good doing it.

That’s not going to work we’re talking draft positions when drafted Brown was/is a Defensive Tackle and DJ Wonnum is definitely a DE. When drafting this year Grahams a clear DT and A Carter is a clear DE if Carter comes in and plays DE/LB oh ok big deal you know what I mean as far as contributing to winning ways. Not playing the semantics game what player do you think will impact winning next season more MG or AC?

Man I’m not trying to be a dck my bad, just talking a little smack but I was serious about the benefits of Graham over Carter based off how much he can impact winning for us next season.

And to follow up that thought for the sake of conversation would anyone in here rather have Chase Young then Derrick B these last couple of years. Just another example of how drafting DE just because you think you draft a DE first shows how that thought process leaves a team set back. If we can end up at 3/4 and trade back and acquire an additional 2nd we could really fill out our roster but if not take Graham if he checks out let’s start controlling both lines of scrimmage 3 downs straight getting the ball back to our dare I say explosive offense (lol). He seems like the perfect fit we definitely need a DE a very good one drafted early but Wonnum has shown up since returning putting him next to Brown should look real real good. Put him next to two dominate run stuffing/pass rushing DTs and the other side can be manned by a complimentary group of guys DJ Johnson, Barno/Clowney/FA addition. Isn’t it easier to manufacture pass rush pressure then stop the run, but we’ll see which way we go in April.

I once again wake up eat my breakfast and then read bs…man your logic only works in your head I can give you multiple examples but I’ll start with one easy clear example of it matters who you’re getting and what you’re planning on doing. Jadevon C and Khalil Mack were drafted before Aaron Donald 2014 biggest mistake of the draft as we look back and redraft or whatever. It doesn’t make sense to take a DE over a DT thats a stud game changing elite defensive player. You can’t draft of generalization typically you want a DE first but nowadays DT are just as impactful so you better choose right LA got a chip bc of Donald meanwhile K Mack is on his second team and J Clowney on his third team. We don’t draft positions we draft elite prospects Graham seems to be a more productive disruptive player than either DE we may get. A Carter who I want is a Micah P clone they say I can see him impacting the pass game but the run game might leave him as a non factor. And right now our main focal point on defense this offseason will be stopping the run. We’ll be able to create pressure with A Barno back Wonnum healthy and a mix of blitzing which has helped us generate pass rush lately. Graham if he allows us to stop the run and he generates a pass rush himself which at Michigan he’s know to do both consistently helps our defense then start controlling games would be a better pick then Carter for us moving forward so let’s dive deeper then just pick a DE over a DT because there’s so many factors to weigh out with these top ten picks in the nfl draft.

Either or but I’m leaning towards Graham because run stuffing with pass rush would be a big time difference maker. I’m leaning Graham but Carter from Penn State can’t complain about either one.

lol I was screaming laugh like this dude must be slow and Caleb looks azz overall I’ve watched this game really closely he’s missed just about all his throws outside of about 3-4 I mean i feel like I’m watching Bryce 2.0 and then to run into a LB has to be the dumbest thing I’ve seen in a while.

I’m hoping for that exact same scenario, two seconds would be big for us. I’d hope for 3 impact players. A WR/DL/DE that can contribute like this current class would be key to our rebuild.

Once again context matters thanks for a more in depth look at this. Glad to see Teddy two gloves throwing 31 out of 36 passes near the line of scrimmage and somebody’s trying to compare it to Bryce throwing dimes all over the field when will the hate stop and we tip our hat to him for his game vs KC while waiting on him to show what he can do this week. Just remember XL makes that sideline catch Bryce probably hits 300 passing yards, no PI AT probably brings down that TD giving Bryce 300. I’m waiting for this weekend can he continue to ascend weekly we'll see Sunday.

They got him for free if anything happens to either of the two top targets he’ll ascend right into a starting spot. Not a bad deal for them wish we could have worked things out with him we’d have a little more pop on offense but we’re better off in the long run and he wanted out in major way so everybody wins.