Dorian Gray

He's going to be a Falcon next year. They'll go all-in on him.

This. Carr with Payton would’ve been a decent pairing for them. Dennis Allen is a chode.

Surely we having the staff now to coach this guy up.

Complicated legacy, but was the reason we have pro football in the Carolinas. RIP, Big Cat.

Worth mentioning that Caleb Williams is likely #1 next year and Utah beat him twice while AR carved them up. He was definitely inconsistent this year but if Reich can unlock his potential… big time.

Or, at least, his potential. "Frank Reich has got — if this were to happen, he's got to have a plan. He's got to have a veteran and trust the fact that he's going to need at least one year (of sitting behind and learning). But Anthony Richardson could turn out to be Jalen Hurts or one of these top quarterbacks in the league, so I think he's got a chance to be special — but he's not ready yet." https://247sports.com/LongFormArticle/2023-NFL-Mock-Draft-Tennessee-QB-Hendon-Hooker-highlights-two-round-CBS-Sports-projection-205037645/#205037645_9 I think with this coaching staff in place, we'd be a great landing spot for him to develop. Which is weird to say after sitting through 3 years of Rhule's QB diarrhea carousel.

People saying he's a worse QB than AR and Levis are crazy. Maybe he doesn't have the POTENTIAL of those guys, but he's actually accomplished more on the field than they have. And looked better doing it. More consistent, more cerebral, better grasp of the field. He just doesn't have off-the-charts measurables and he's older than the average draft pick.

I mean...yeah? Doesn't everybody already expect this?

Steichen might end up being great, but this is a valid point and people want to ignore it. I prefer Reich just because he's shown he can win as a head coach with average/below average rosters, but I'll obviously support whoever gets the job. Although I'd be curious to see what all the "6-6 is mediocre garbage" crowd says if one of the Golden Child coordinators goes below .500 next year. I'm sure it'll be "you have to give him time to get a better roster!" instead of the automatic excellence expected of Wilks.

I'm not even sure interims are eligible, but... In the unlikely scenario we win out and win the division, Wilks should be a top vote getter for Coach of the Year, right? This team was an absolute trash fire when he came in, and he's cleaned up so much of it already. Looooong road ahead for a playoff berth, but might as well dream big while you can.

Ohio State just outclasses everybody in this conference. Day makes it so easy for his guys, it’s hard to judge. WR was just running open and would’ve been a TD but Stroud threw it late and behind him. I hope they make the CFP so we can see him/them against teams who can match up athletically.

The SC coastal areas are mostly full of northern transplants now, who brought their own allegiances with them. That's why there's so many Steeler bars in Myrtle Beach. I think Upstate SC, Greenville, Spartanburg, etc have a pretty good amount of fans.

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U.S. Congressman Ralph Norman's statement on what's going on: "Our community deserves to hear from David Tepper without further delay. "Hundreds of millions of dollars have already been invested in this incredible venture, not to mention painstaking efforts by thousands of individuals. From the beginning, our community has embraced Mr. Tepper and rallied behind his “two states, one team” mission for the Carolina Panthers. The importance of this endeavor – and what it will ultimately mean for York County and the entire state of South Carolina – simply cannot be overstated. "Since groundbreaking in 2020, we’ve watched as the Panthers’ new facility has completely transformed the skyline of Rock Hill. When coupled with future private developments throughout the rest of the 240-acre complex, Mr. Tepper could be the catalyst for thousands of new jobs and have a monumental impact on South Carolina’s economy that will seal his legacy for generations to come. "That’s what is ultimately at stake here, and why it was so shocking when Tepper Sports unexpectedly paused construction over a month ago; a blow that, since then, has been compounded by the organization’s unexplainable silence. "I’ve been involved in real estate and commercial construction for more than 40 years, and have never seen this degree of uncommunicativeness – on any level. "While Tepper Sports is certainly not obligated to negotiate in public, I do believe Rock Hill and York County governments have demonstrated their desire to discuss all obstacles to this development and help bring the Panthers’ headquarters and training facility to their new home in South Carolina. However, that cannot happen so long as Mr. Tepper remains unwilling to engage. "Each passing day that Tepper Sports declines comment only results in more rumors, more speculation, and more anxiety over catastrophic losses for our community should this venture fall apart. "As a Panther’s fan, a resident of York County and as its representative in Congress, I am publicly asking Mr. Tepper to break the silence and be transparent about what’s happening from his perspective. We deserve at least that much respect. "My sincere hope is that both sides can work together to quickly restart this endeavor, and I stand ready to do anything within my ability to help make that happen."

100%. The problem is that Rhule's job is on the line so he'll obviously fight that plan. If he can draft his boy Pickett and win a few games, he can argue that he had a rookie QB and they're trending in the right direction now. Which I have a gut feeling is going to happen.

Ol Dan not a fan it seems.

Correct. Also, presumably he’s wanting fans (us) to pay for tickets to this trash fire next year. The least he can do is give us a reason why we should. What’s his vision for the future of this team? What are his expectations of Rhule this year? What positives did he see coming out of last year? Dude was EVERYWHERE a couple of years ago. He’s hiding now and it’s a bad look.

Gettleman School of Grooming

Looks like they decided to go with simplicity this year.

At this stage I'd be shocked if we didn't. He's been linked to Rhule since this process started, and the OL additions via free agency make it seem like they're going QB at 6.

I think they meant Tomlin just had to drive across town.

I think Baker ends up in Indy and Jimmy G goes to Cleveland. We’re either drafting Willis or Pickett at 6 or rolling with Sammy D another year.

Who in their right mind would want to come in to this dumpster fire? Especially for all we'd have to give up for him. He'd be surrounded by a RB who's always hurt, a bad (but hopefully mildly better next year) offensive line, a gutted defense which will most certainly be worse, a coaching staff everyone knows is gone after this year, and no draft picks to improve anything.

Maybe Kyler might be fast enough to elude the entire defense crashing down on him every play due to a dogpoo offensive line we won't address.