Dorian Gray

Stroud single-handedly keeping that 2023 QB class from being one of the worst in history. Bryce, AR, Levis, just an absolute trash pile of busts.

Jets offense (Hackett) -- 27th in the league in YPG Jets defense (Saleh) -- 2nd in the league in YPG And they replace... Saleh. Must be nice being Aaron's BFF.

Mrs. Rhule > Fitt

All we heard all week was: "It's an organizational failure." "He needs more time." "Nobody could succeed there." "He has no weapons." "The offensive line can't protect anyone." Dalton has proven for the SECOND time that none of that is true. But because Bryce looks like he's 11, I think people want to coddle him and give him the benefit of the doubt. It was such fanbase gaslighting.

Can't believe I'm asking this but... do you pull Dalton now? Don't want our king getting hurt in garbage time.

They can’t tee off on the running game because Dalton can throw downfield. Helps the run game. Helps the line. Helps the pass game. Helps the defense because they’re not constantly on the field. It really all goes back to having a competent quarterback.

Colts fans on Reddit begging them to bench Richardson for Flacco lol

Miami fans with a hard pass on Bryce lol https://finheaven.com/threads/trade-for-bryce-young.384566/

If all these "personnel people" think he's still good and it's all our fault, feel free to send some draft picks our way. Spoiler: They won't, because they know he sucks too.

Dalton about to come out slinging it around like Flacco

https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/41312459/bryce-young-nfl-future-trade-value-options-panthers-worst-draft-pick-trade Some damning stuff in there.

I'd rather see XL get experience and develop than Johnson anyway so if you can get something for him, go for it.

There doesn't seem to be a Caleb Williams in this draft and there are 5 or 6 QBs projected around the same (1st round). Beck, Ward, Moss, Sanders, Ewers...unless Dalton goes on a Flacco-esque playoff run, at least one of those guys will be available if Canales wants them.

I would be curious to see how Canales would do with Jameis. Jameis would be the same age Geno was when Canales started bringing him back from the dead and, from a purely physical talent standpoint, Jameis has more natural tools than Geno had. Of course you'd likely get one of his incredible 30 TDs, 30 INTs seasons, but hell at least he'd throw it down the field.

Not sure if y'all remember when Rosen was going through the combine, he was praised for how cerebral he was. He obviously had better physical traits than Bryce, but his football IQ was what everyone raved about. He was drafted in the first round by Arizona and was fuging terrible. The Cardinals gave up on him after one year and the national media piled on them, making all kinds of excuses for Rosen like his surrounding cast was bad, his coaching was bad, he wasn't given time, etc etc etc The Cardinals went on to draft Kyler, who was an exponential upgrade, and Josh Rosen is selling real estate or something now. It's obvious the national media doesn't watch bad teams, and just assume that because the franchise is terrible, that's what's making the player terrible. When in actuality, Dave Canales - who helped resurrect Geno Smith and improve Baker Mayfield - saw enough in TWO GAMES worth of tape to know Bryce isn't it. I think a coach making that kind of call this early should be celebrated for trying to improve the team instead of clowned because he didn't give Bryce enough time.