pantherclaw

I want to see both lines play. I pray they both stay healthy. If we can win in the trenches, then there is a chance we win more than a few games.

Yet, he looks like he has attacked the gym. He assimilated what he can. Yet all i see is more pitching. Seems like it can be backed off at least until regular season, but I know it won't. The huddle isn't ever happy.

I do. He has time for a recovery. 2 months before training camp. Doesn't hurt anything shutting him down in OTAs

Luke is an outlier even among the elite. Was it a bad answer? Sure. Anyone that expects any player to be nonstop football every waking moment needs to reassess life priorities.

For real! How dare a football player watch Netflix. He has no time for himself!! fug

Different players. Shouldn't the offense look different and to maximize the talent on our team, not the bucs?

Oh no, not in May!!!!

Another talking head with the same opinion as the majority of the huddle. Thank God it's been brought to the huddles attention, so that we can all pat ourselves on the back that our opinion is shared by the masses. Lol

You're assuming I care about winning or losing an argument on this place? Or anywhere on the internet? Time to grow up.

Where did I say that, Franke?

It dawned on me this morning.... that we have a fan base that can't make up it's mind whether they want to be winners or lovers. Y'all say ya want to be winners, but ya don't act like it. Beening a fan since before the first game every played by the Panther, I know this fan base lobes us being then underdog. "We play better as the underdog." Which in of itself is a loser mentality. No competitor ever wants to constantly be considered the underdog. Just ask Steve Smith. This season, this team is literally the ultimate underdog. Let by a QB that fits the underdog role PERFECTLY. This fan base should be going hog wild about being an underdog in EVERY GAME we're scheduled to play this season. Yet, they have already labeled this seasonnas another lost season. Which it.may end up being, but who the fug really wants that? Seriously??? I personally, want to see our team thrive. I want them to take it to the NFL. I want to see these guys, Bryce included, to step up and show the NFL that not only do they belong, but they're bringing the fight to the other teams. Enough of this lover mentality. Enough with crying over not having the QB we all wish we had (whomever that may be).

Measuring last season MUST take into account that Young had no pocket to step up and pass. If once is going to talk about footwork of a quarterback, one must first address the oline. Does said QB have a decent line. No. Does said QB have clean pockets to step up into when passing. Again, No. When a QB is running for his life. his footwork, which is tied to accuracy, is going to crumble. Just ask P. Manning. Cam, ....any QB to EVER PLAY THE GAME! Bruce's football career is based on his accuracy. It's one of his elite traits. So, let's, I don't know, see how he is behind a competent oline, with competent receivers. This fan base is so incredibly stubborn with this kid. They refuse to be unbiased at all.

His accuracy is better than most. Try again.

Brett Farve was once deemed an impossible project too. I know... he had the size and strength, but if all you're going to fall back on is his size, then this is all a waste of time anyways.

So every player that is over drafted is a scam artist. Interesting perspective.

I don't believe any site that is ran by fans. So much of that is what they want. Most were saying that the Panthers wasn't leading on anyone in particular throughout most of the draft. When the team was as the Stroud pro day, was when most fans hitched themselves to Stroud. I am under the impression that our star studded coaching staff and our GM ultimately led the team to picking Young. I know Tepper absolutely signed off on it, as he's the owner of the team and no QV drafted 1st overall isn't going to have the owners blessing. Stroud did a fantastic job in Houston. Pretty sure he wouldn't have enjoyed then same success here. Either way, it's water under the bridge. Our franchise as a whole doesn't do well when selecting a QB to draft. Cam being the outlier. I also don't believe the story with Young and the Panthers is even close to being written yet. Does that make me one that got dupped? I feel I'm pretty unbiased when I make my opinions, despite wanting all Panthers to succeed. You can be both.

They haven't drafted as many flat out failures as the other 2 have... but yes... they have swung for the fences many many times.

The bears and the browns. As many QBs they have drafted, they should be able able to field their own football league!

The Bears have a long history of liking their divas.

"Chicago's "franchise" QB Caleb Williams has been benched during Chicago's OTA's after throwing 7 consecutive interceptions. Williams also did not compete a SINGLE pass in 7v7 drills. Coaches think Williams has been to reliant with his scrambling in scrimmages and have told him directly, "Stop playing like our last quarterback, play your game."

So, electro, .... Bryce Young scammed professionals all throughout the league? This isn't Ryan Leaf, although he was pretty obvious a bust before even drafted. Perhaps we did get scammed. I, personally, have zero issues admitting my short comings, the times I was an idiot despite knowing I'm actually not one. Damn those moments anyways. I also have no problems admitting to being scammed. I think the biggest scam last season was that the team did their best to put an offense around Bryce, and that the offensive line, that performed well under Wilks, was going to be a strength. We can't even call it a weakness last year, as it was a complete failure. I know everyone wants to be done with this experiment now. Hence why so many have dug in so deep to defend their perspectives. Very rarely does it go that way unless your team was dumb enough to draft Johnny Football.

I'm really trying to give a fug.... Nope...that's a lie. I simply Don't give a fug about the bears, Caleb, or the fact we traded with them over a year ago. All water under the bridge. With that being said, Caleb is a punk ass rookie, that is in his first OTA in the NFL. It really doesn't matter how he looks. He's suppose to be learning the system.

I sit here and think, Y'all call me a Homer? This thread is filled with mostly people on the Extremes. Ones whom are incapable of believing a group of talented athletes can play well enough together to win. And ones that fit this description. In may. Believe that our offense is going to magically start carrying this team. Which has never happened in the history of this franchise. You guys have no business calling me a Homer. Seriously. Now that I have expressed this... let me open up more on This current team than I have to this point In THEORY, our run defense should be much improved. Which would in turn, give the defense more opportunities to actually rush the passer. More than last year anyways. Once again, in THEORY, our running game should be much improved. That in itself should benefit out defense, by allowing the offense the opportunity to actually sustain drives. There isn't a single pass rusher on this team that scares me. Clowney is a pretty good complete defensive end/edge guy. At no point in his career was he ever considered an elite pass rusher. Now he's our best pass rusher. After that we have a wanna be journeyman pass rusher, and a lot of unknowns. Even with more pass rush opportunities on the horizon, how ANYONE can be confident about our pass rush at this moment, just blows my mind. Going back to offense. IF our oline can come together, and ve somewhat healthy this year, that will be a miracle in of itself. Thus is coming from a fan whom always says the okine takes time to come together. He'll, last year they never had the opportunity to come together. The line was being shuffled from the beginning. How anyone expected our young left tackle to be even competent when musical chairs was played all season long at the guard positions , blows my mind. Is anyone capable of understanding the impact that has on an oline? Which in turn impacts the entire offense? Seriously. The fact people still want to say they know Young sucks/is a bust after the 1 rookie season behind that miserable attempt of even fielding an offense??? Seriously, what the fug are you smoking? That ain't good poo. You need a better source for your drugs man. You guys have brain damage. IF our oline can come together, IF our oline can remain decently healthy, then yes, our offense should, for the first time since Tepper has owned the team, be offensive to other teams!! Our running game should flourish. Nothing in any generation of NFL is more effective andndangerous than a balanced offense. While I am somewhat optimistic about what this team as attempting to field this season... I do have my doubts. I can see how it can come together. I can also see how it can fail to get traction at all. Our team should at least be more entertaining to watch for the first time in I don't know how many years. Maybe I'll actually attend some games this year. I won't hold my breath. If our team findsa way to improve to average, that means will win 6 to 9 games. That's a pretty good improvement for a first year head coach. Notnsurw how many of our fans would be alright with that. Seems our fans fall into 2 categories. Superbowl, or tank, I mean don't you dare win 1 damn game, and fug up a high draft pick so we can continue to suck forever!!!! Hmmmm Seems this post has been all over the place. And you have the audacity to call me a Homer.

I agree. I think this year's team will be funny to watch. I can't even remember the last time I've said that.