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I'm celebrating because I'm positively surprised that we made the right call here. I'm genuinely shocked we aren't sunk cost fallacy-ing this and sticking with Bryce. We have to move on. We're taking the biggest L in the history of the NFL. But it had to be done. And the sooner the better.

This too shall pass. I'm not invested in the team at all right now because the product on the field is garbage. And they deserve exactly as much of my fandom as is proportional to their commitment to actually trying to win a game. And as long as they start Bryce, I know that's zero. But these times don't last forever. And the only thing you can ever be certain of is entropy. Whatever the state of things are now is almost a guarantee that in the future they will be different. So I'll hang in there now because I want to be on the bandwagon when things start trending up. Doesn't mean I'm setting aside my Sundays now to watch this poo. Doesn't mean I'm buying an merch. I'm still going to express my derision for the current ownership through my wallet and attention. But I'll be a Panthers fan until they're no longer in the Carolinas.

It's not a mystery. He needs to lower the level of competition. He's probably a fine QB, but he's simply not cut out for the NFL. He needs to step down to the USFL or CFL with the other good, but flawed talents out there. It sucks, because the world isn't fair, and his flaws aren't something he has any control over. But he's just to damn small, weak and slow to ever hope to be successful at this level. He won't get his confidence back until he has even a fair chance to be successful. And that will never happen here.

There is no incentive to play hard for a team that has nothing to play for. If an L is already a guarantee, why bother playing your heart out? Why risk injury? I don't think you would. Bad play will build a low energy, no effort, loser culture that will take years to erase. You have to play to win now. Not because you think you will, but so your team still has some fight and dignity left. And starting Bryce is not the way you do that, because you cannot look me dead in the eyes and tell me that Bryce Young starting at QB gives this team the best chance of winning on Sunday. You have to bench Bryce to save the psyche of this franchise.

fug no. Move the Tepper. We were here first.

Here's the thing. Each coach brings in talent that fits his scheme. So when you change coaches every year you end up with a discordant mishmash of players that don't work together. We need to at least stay the course with Canales for a while and allow him to bring in players who work in his scheme. A coach with inherited talent will NEVER be successful. Especially when it's a coach coming into the #1 draft spot because they were the worst in the league. Especially when they don't even have a #1 pick for their troubles!

Don't wish that juju on us. I hope we at least have one bit of consistency to build on. We gave up on Darnold and Baker too soon. Clearly. At a certain point we have to stop throwing away all our talent because of short term frustrations. the only thing worse than a bad team is a turbulent bad team. Stay the course in one area at least, and coaching is a good place to invest in.

This. That thinking is the reason we don't have Moore, CMC and Burns. This isn't MLB where you can be savvy picking up AAA prospects for the future. This is a 53 man squad. And eventually you need to realize you have to hold onto the talent you have.

I got dunked on last year for asking if this was the worst trade of all time. It's already bad. And the funny thing is it's not done yet. We STILL have a second round pick coming up that we gave up for Bryce.

Honestly, I feel bad for Bryce. I know, I know. Millionaire set for life. I get it. But this is a guy who presumably loves playing a kids game. Had high expectations. Had a franchise put on his back. And he's just awful. And I think he knows it. And his team is frustrated with him. The fans hate him. But we keep trotting him out because we bet the farm on him I feel for the kid because this can't be fun. Honestly, the kindest thing we can do is let him go and be forgotten before his name is synonymous with "worst of all time"

Pull that bag on, brother. Just pull it on.

Lol! Who? Who is saying that?

Honestly, the pub I'm at has bangin' pizza. Otherwise this would be a completely wasted afternoon

Honestly, our only hope is to make owning this team so unpalatable that he sells. He's doing a fine job on his own, but we as fans really need to do our bit and be collosal assholes and trolls to him specifically until he sells.

Honestly, what's worse optics for the franchise? Benching your #1 overall pick 6 quarters into his second season, never to be seen again? Or trotting him back out after the half for more of the same?

First thing we've done right all day. Quality punt

We have a second round pick?

Okay, fug it. Let's start the conversation now.

See? Told you we'd get another drive this half.

Should be the next drive. Whether or not it's the half.

Okay. That's it. Dalton time. Look at Bryce's face after that pick. Even he's done.

I was gonna make this a thread on it's own, but I'll re-ask it officially in a couple of weeks if this continues: At what point do the 2024 Panthers enter the conversation of "Worst NFL Teams of All Time?"

Don't make me bump the Darnold/Mayfield thread

Okay, honestly, if you're the chargers, why not go on 4th and 1? Worst case you turnover on downs and the Panthers offense takes you closer to the end zone anyway.

OMG that graphic. "1.0 yards per play"