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I see two desirable situations for Bill. It depends on what Bill wants to do. Dallas: It's a TV Dinner. 3-consecutive 12-win seasons. Roster made to win now. He can pop that team in the microwave, nuke it, win a Super Bowl and retire being hailed once again as a coaching genius. Carolina: Low Effort. He can step in, earn an ungodly paycheck for another few years, and retire without actually accomplishing anything. It doesn't tarnish his legacy because we're a terrible team, a worse franchise, and he has the built-in excuse of a pain-in-the-ass owner. I don't see him going to an Atlanta or an L.A. where they have some pieces in place, but he'd have to actually build the program to take it to the next level. Because if he doesn't succeed in those situations, all it does is feed into the rhetoric that he couldn't win without Tom Brady. God forbid those teams actually have a worse record after he takes over? How would that make him look? The Panthers, quite literally can't do much worse after he takes over, and that, funnily enough, I think should be an attractive prospect for him. So does he want to cement his legacy with one more ring? Or get a massive golden parachute to end his career?

Hit the jackpot on Dizzy Chicken at halftime.

Yup, I spent the entire Bucc's game, when not hiding my face in a combination of rage and embarrassment, yelling "Pay that man!" at the Dave & Busters TVs.

Panthers have requested permission to interview Lions COO Mike Disner for GM position.

Fishing for a trade? We're hard up for picks. Think we'd take a second for him?

It's hard to say I miss the "Golden Days" of us having DJ and Curtis Samuel hugging it out before running out the tunnel. But looking back at that solid 1-2 WR group does make me yearn for those solid bronze days.

Honestly, I can pinpoint seeing this photo as the exact moment I went from cautiously optimistic to mildly concerned. Pre-season Week 1 was when the concern level started spiking.

This. The story doesn't make any sense given the timeline. Drink was thrown after a game-sealing interception. There may have been some jawing before that, but Tepper's drink toss was a rage quit like a twelve year old losing in Fortnight.

This is a message to whomever the new GM is. He's trying to preemptively set the bargaining expectations high. But I don't think it's going to work. No GM in this league is willing to pay Burns like a top 5 or even top 10 Edge rusher. Because he's not one. Let him sniff around the market and find out that teams are willing to pay him like an above-average pass-rusher and not a penny more. Then let him come crawling back to our new GM for an extension. I feel pretty confident he'll be a Panther next year. But he seriously needs his ego checked.

This is pretty much bang-on my projection as well. I sincerely doubt Bryce is our starter in 2025. I kindly doubt he finishes next season as our starter barring a miracle. 2025 will be when we start to turn things around, and we should be a wildcard contender by '26. This, of course, assumes Tepper continues what appears to be a Scroogian turnaround in terms of his involvement in football decisions. Otherwise, just copy and paste 2023 over and over.

There is one saving grace that he is still only 22. He's literally still growing. Don't get me wrong I don't have any illusions that he'll get more than an inch taller, but he's still filling out. There is one hope, and I was just talking about it this morning, that if he commits himself to weight gain and puts on 30 pounds of mass in the off-season, he could get stronger. Make him marginally harder to tackle, put more power behind his throws. It's a faint hope, but for next season it's all we got.

Keep him. His mediocre season mean he's in a much worse bargaining position. We should sign home for $15-20m and he should be grateful for it.

This season was the worst because the games were literally painful to watch. I care less about wins and losses than being entertained. I wasn't entertained once.

Chuba. He plays like he actually cares.

Stop trying to make pillows and hicky happen

Credit where it's due. This is exactly what many of us were asking for. It's exactly the right call. Anyone taking the opportunity to bitch in this thread is just looking for another opportunity to be a whiny baby poopy pants. I get it, you're mad at Tepper. But we're not getting rid of the owner of the team, so be happy that at least he's taking a step to not unilaterally make the decisions that have hurt the franchise so far in his tenure.

This, I feel, is the ultimate, "I told you so" outcome. I could go back to this time last year and pull hundreds of posts from dozens of posters who were saying the exact same thing: "We need to do everything possible to get a franchise QB. Darnold won't work. Baker won't work. No more retreads. I want to get off the 6 and 7-win roller coaster." Well, what do y'all know. You monkey pawed that wish. We got off all right. We're looking up through 20 feet of dog poo at 6 wins, and are liable to get worse before we get better. Mediocre is the launching pad for a good team. Pushing all your chips into the center and going bust helps no one. Embrace mediocrity, meatheads, because it can always be worse!

I'm fine with it. I'm just relieved the league didn't dock us a draft pick. A financial penalty for Tepper, no matter how small, at least doesn't set the team back further. It would be awful for the fan base to suffer (moreso) for that jackass's actions.

This move would make a lot of sense. As I mentioned in my other post, I think he does a fine job working the phones. I trust him to take a sixth round pick, and somehow turn it into two 5th round picks. But he just simply Can. Not. Evaluate. Talent. Remove the personnel management responsibilities, and I think he's a valuable executive to have in the organization.

I'm not arguing for him to keep his job. I'm arguing for everyone to keep their expectations low if he's replaced.

You have to blame the scouts. Fitterer is making the call on the pick, but he's doing that based on the information he's getting from the people whose job it is to evaluate the talent level of prospects, and their ability to translate to the professional game. I'll say it: I don't have a problem with the wheeling and dealing to be in on every deal and moving picks around. I think that's what Fitterer thinks the job of a GM is, and he does it very well. The problem is that none of the picks we've traded for have panned out. If we'd hit, the CMC trade would look better. Hell, even the trade to #1 would look a lot better if we'd taken Stroud. The problem is we have been consistently wrong on the talent we've been drafting, while much more talented players are being taken after them. We have an enormous talent evaluation problem. And while Fitterer is rightly in the crosshairs, don't expect that issue to be resolved if continue to have the same people with boots on the ground at the pro days and combines, who are watching the footwork, analyzing the BS next-gen metrics, looking at the health reports, and still drafting duds.

Erm, you do remember that the people who would be making that call thought Bryce Young was the best player in the draft, right?

Bryce will not be out QB on 2025. It's not that I don't want him to succeed. It's that I don't want to waste half a decade or more denying what is blatantly obvious. We missed. Badly. And way overspent in doing so. The only thing worse is falling victim to sunk cost fallacy.

Never pick the sire of a former player. Daddy's set financially. He doesn't NEED this.

It was very encouraging to see! However I'm going to wait and see how he performs in the finale and if the confidence and swagger carries over. Remember, Green Bay is the team that made Tommy DeVito look like a future starter and allowed Baker Mayfield to post the first perfect passer rating by a visiting QB in Packers history. Point being, I think this was a much needed get-right game against a poor Packers D that hopefully will bolster Bryce's confidence. But looking at how that D has been performing lately, I'm not ready to say that it's an indication that Bryce has finally turned the corner...yet. Once is an aberration. Twice is the start of a trend.