Al Morgan

22-12 Panthers

That's what a college level D# and philosophy gets you

No doubt about it. Also, we have a quick and smart D#. We just need a competent NFL caliber DC, not even elite

If you don't think D# has been an issue for a good part of the season, despite how much we invested in it, it's probably not him the one who didn't watch the game(s)

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Are you really comparing Mahomes' stats line with PJ? Even taking away Kelce and Hill's reception, that's still better than the full PJ. He was good enough to not lose the game, unlike what Darnold did in the previous weeks. Still, even if it was "good enough", it's not good for the 2021 NFL standards (as far as stats are concerned). No gymnstatics involved. As long as the Panthers win, I'm ok with PJ, Sam or even Matt Barkley under center.

If you take away CMC, PJ performance was awful. There's no way to tell if getting those PAs in would have helped PJ's stats line. I agree with you, he gave us a chance. That was enough on sunday. I'm not sure it will be enough when the D# is not playing at an elite level.

Yeah, I agree on CMC. just like BrianS says, we won't win many games with this kind of performance from PJ. BUT, for this game, it was good enough to not give away the game. And that's what Sam has been doing for the past 4 or 5 weeks. My point is that Brady and the staff didn't help Darnold at all, coaching or trying to fix him. Thus, so far, PJ is less of a liability

Darnold needed a staff and Coaches who could fix his play and career. Ours' didn't really help or scheme around him and now he's even more damaged than before the trade. PJ at least don't cost us the game, but I still don't trust Brady

IMHO, the issue with the O# is that coaching is not getting through. Our QB is playing bad, our OL is playing bad, our WRs are playing bad. Bad reads, bad blocking, bad routes timing and separations. They all have a common denominator and from what we know, that's Joe Brady. And this is not to say that he is a bad play designer, play caller, awful Coach or whatever. With any scheme, as a player, the better you understand what and why are you performing a specific task, better you'll perform and execute. With most of our O#, this is not the case. Maybe our philosophy is great, but is teached poorly? Maybe the timing is off because the designer isn't really great at understanding some football concepts? Maybe the terminology is confusing? Other? All of the above? Who knows. But the point is that a lot of the O#'s bad execution can be fixed by proper coaching. Are they able to identify the problem first, and then correct it?

I'm more concerned with Reddick getting cut out of the play 50% of the times, more than the lack of pass rush from Burns. And that's because what he's being tasked to do, doesn't play to Reddick skillset.

You can beat the dead horse how much you want. This is not how football works. The first read is on Moore. Ian Thomas is there only to lure the coverage and take the Linebacker out of the equation, in order to free the throwing lane to Moore. Since that doesn't happen, the next reads are on the opposite side. If you want to blame Sam for not throwing it to Chuba, that's fine (remember, this is a 1 & 20 with 2 minutes to go, thanks to our good boy Miller). But Ian Thomas is not supposed to be looked at when you see him "wide open". Just stop

Robby could be right, but with his sloppy route running and the dropsies, given the fresh new contract, he is probably the last guy on this group who can pout and scream on the sideline. Not all balls thrown his way were catchable. But when if you can touch it, you can catch it. That's what good receivers does, constantly. If he thinks that football is only about go routes and deep bombs, and that's the only plays he's supposed to put in the effort, maybe he has to rework his contract in order to reflect it.

Comparing Nnamdi Asomugha to the others in that bunch, is probably one of the most disrespectful things I've read on here. He still played elite when he got paid. He was already earning top CB money when he landed in Philly.

I mostly agree with you, but I think that our D# still has to face a team that really expose it, more than Dallas did. Our DBs are good, but our defensive philosophy is a gimmick. The stand up tilted rushers, are our weakness. I can't really count how many times Reddick is getting manhandled or kept out of the play by his man, and a bunch of time it was a JAG TE. Without proper play and alignment from the D-Line, our LBers can't do much. And this has nothing to do with having positionless players (because saying "player who can play a bunch of different positions" is just too long). It's more about football's ABC and geometries.

Average. Exactly what you see on gameday

On our D#, CBs are rotating. Horn was playing the slot quite a bit. DJax+Horn and if he pans out, CJ Henderson, are a hell of a combo to have for the next 3/4 years (and don't forget Chinn...)

Not much of a competition

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I've been pretty critical about Thomas, but if you think he's expandable, you're probably not watching games. I don't think he'll ever reach his real potential, but when things click for him, he's a good blocker especially in open field. If you want to move on from a TE, Arnold is your man

For comparison, NFL Single season record for Sacks is 22.5. Michael Strahan, 2001 season. The next one on the team had 6 Sacks. Team total sacks for that season were 46

Are some of you even watching the games? Erving right now is playing like our 2nd best O-Linemen. For all of those asking for Christensen, he's not playing because he's not ready. Too much information? Game too fast? Not trusting the men next to him? Who knows, but he's not looking ready right now.

All the best RB in the last 20 yrs of NFL history had no problem playing at an elite level while getting close to (in some cases, more) 400 in a season. In most of these cases, the majority of their touches came on rushing plays, which is (on average) way more taxing on the body than getting hit on passing plays. Tomlinson, Alexander, Holmes, Faulk. Faulk's workload, especially 1998-2002 closely resembles what we can expect from CMC in the next years. Those elite RBs didn't have access to all the tools and recovery options RBs have these days. Hell, we have an entire department charged with analyzing data about player's performance and health. You can make a counter case about NFL players getting bigger and faster, but being raised as an athlete like CMC was from a very young age, as far as recovery and prevention, plays a bigger role in that. On another note, I wasn't really pleased with our offensive efficiency. But you gotta consider how our offensive scheme works. It's not like we force-fed the ball to CMC. It was probably more the result of our coaching staff's gameplan. 9 reception were the result of the Jets defensive calls. They were bringing pressure and covering our best receivers with their best defenders. In this scheme, the O# takes what the D# gives

I went back and watched clips a little bit more. Overall, the guards weren't that bad. A lot of their bad plays was the result of a difficult assignment. You can clearly see that the Jets DT are extremely good and there's only so much an average/above average Guard can do against those too. I can't say who is who, but Elflein went against the better DT most of the game and it clearly showed. Still, he played smart football and was good at limiting him, given his lack of strength compared to the opponent. Daley was helped most of the game by Paradis. The only sack that was allowed? 3 D-linemen stacked 1 on 1 against our 3 inside. There is little you can do skill wise or scheme wise. Pressures? Most of them, the result of Elflein trying to slow down a vastly superior opponent. Before judging the O-Line, I'd like to see them play against more average competition. Also, Erving played smart football and was consistent most of the game. The run game was good for the most part. But we're not really good at mauling the opponent, and that really shows in short distance situation. Only a good scheme design can help us there, or putting a Deonte Brown in