Rocky Davis

I bet Tom Brady would look much better throwing to DJ, TMJ, and behind our O-line than he did behind Tampa's. Damn, who would have said that even two weeks ago.

Fitterer wanted Larnel in the late rounds, but Rhule didn't want to waste a pick on him because his fingers weren't long enough for a prototypical OLineman.

Joe Brady, for sure.

Still say he wanted to play somewhere else this year and came back to finish off his contract with Tampa so he can play one more year where he thinks he can win a SB.

I don't just dismiss what you post, but we don't know if Fitterer had to try to make deals for Darnold and Henderson because Rhule wanted him to. I guess it's within the realm of possibility that Fitterer could be the mastermind behind these moves, but from the things I've read it seemed like Rhule had final say on these things and Fitterer was a conduit between him and other FOs. Fitterer would let Rhule and Co. know a player was a available for trade and then Rhule and "the brain trust" would decide to either pursue or not. The Darnold thing was probably more a committee type thing than Henderson, although Tepper and Rhule both made that situation arise just by bashing Teddy. The Henderson thing seems more like Rhule really wanting him and asking Fitterer to go get him. In both cases I hope Fitterer made the trades as palatable as possible for the Panthers - just like other signings that I wasn't a big fan of like Donte Jackson and Ian Thomas. I am not saying Fitterer has or will be great, but the moves that have been made since Rhule was shown the door have been pretty damn good, especially the ultimate return on CMAC because it is apparent now we weren't getting a 1st from any team. Do we give Fetterer any credit for the revamped O-Line or the selection of Icky and Horn (who has been great if he can stay on the field)? We can't pick and choose.

Just put down the 1st installment for playoff tickets, want to make sure I have those secured. /s

Yes, but we agree we should get something. Those teams out there saying we only have a little cap space will claim Bear on waivers. We aren't hurting right now not having that roster spot open. Keep him until we get something.....

Everyone bagging on Brady, but he can't throw the ball and catch it. I don't think he even knew TB would be this bad. I want no part of Leftwich as a HC either.

Brady went down easy when he saw Burns coming and I don't blame him. Brady has to be hating himself coming back to this dumpster fire, he's a great QB but he can't win by himself. I almost think he came back because he wants to be able to choose who he plays for next year for one more shot at a title. I may be crazy thinking that, but dude still can ball.

Five strippers and a keg plus all the above?

Ehhh it depends on what year and where the approximate positions of those two 1st rounders would be. The Eagles 1st rounder for the upcoming draft, plus their own, plus maybe a 3rd or 4th in another year would be interesting. Still hard to pull the trigger because Burns is an elite level pass rusher. Needs to work on the run D, but he's still young and should get better. We have already exercised the 5th year option on Burns and one would think an extension will be hammered out in the off season.

I can't understand how the Canes cannot get SOMETHING for him. I don't just let him walk for nothing. If you've started down this road you stay the course......

Poor PP for that double minor and then a piss poor effort at the end of OT....went to sleep and let them score with under a minute left to go. This team better get it together. They are better than this, but same poo we saw against the Rangers in last year's playoffs starting to show back up.

Burns has looked shaky. I think we should have let him have more time during the preseason games. Maybe once he pots one things will start clicking for him.

It's like the X-Files....the truth is out there. Really though the reason that was called was they are playing in Calgary and the Canes were dog walking the Flames up until that point and refs are gonna ref.

If we were two get 2 1st rounders and say a 3rd for Burns and we absolutely know we are going to be running a 4-3 defense I say yes. Burns is great as a 3-4 DE, but unless it's behind the LOS or he isn't being blocked by a 300 RT (or LT) he's a liability against the run. Can he grow and be better against the run, possibly. Is it a guarantee no. I still don't see a team offering enough so it's probably a moot point anyways. Love to see Shaq, Ian Thomas, CJ all traded though. Hell, if we can get some good practice balls and a couple of coolers of Gatorade for next season we send Chuba outta here too.

Yeah that embellishment from Kadri was fuggin ridiculous. Got the call and that sorry azz got the goal too. I hate when refs call that BS. Should be 2-0 Canes.

I didn't know Newton could even think by some of his writing and tweets. Dude could have his 11 year old doing his job with the same quality.

We extracted more from trading CMC to SF than any other team because of two reasons: McCaffreys and Shanahans are friends on and off the field and because CMAC wanted to play on the West Coast.

On the bright side no one ever thought that Tampa Bay would be in a sentence containing the words "storied franchises" in the 19th century so maybe the Panthers will one day win a Super Bowl....maybe 2!

Seriously though, if the dynamic was Rhule had FINAL say on the draft, trades, and signing people he really wanted then I strongly feel that Fitterer and company (Morgan if he sticks around) have at least one draft where they can run things the way they see fit along with input from the new HC. This HC having the final say was the knock on what Rhule wanted when he was the "hot" college HC candidate and MANY NFL teams didn't even take time to play his game. Tepper fugged up bad by not firing Hurney and buying his BS a year too long. We can only hope things can be turned around. I hated the winning/losing/winning/losing season crap, but I would take that in a heartbeat after the last 3-4 years. What I want is sustained success.

Does any team have any of those "Greg Olsens" out there available for a one sided trade to help a poor team out?

I really thought the Bills or possibly one of the "top" 4-5 teams with Super Bowl hopes would give up their late 1st rounder (if they had it) for next year's draft, but I suppose this was the best offer we could get. CMC wanted out and we got a pretty decent return out of it. I keep reminding myself we basically played the last two seasons without him anyways so it's time to see what Foreman can do for us. This also is a lesson learned for the Panthers that you don't overpay your RB. We always seem to be a few years behind on the NFL learning curve. Good luck to CMC!

This....come back in mid January. Better yet, make sure he is 100%. The Metro is loaded and we need to enter the playoffs as healthy as possible.

well kind of gave this one away, glad to see the team keep fighting. Penalties need to be addressed.