DeAngelo Beason

I believe this organization is all-in on upgrading the QB position. I think Rhule knows he had a team last year that was totally capable of making the playoffs with an upgrade at QB.

Incorrect.

I agree. To me, with competent QB play the Panthers were EASILY a 10 win team, even without CMC the whole year.

Hell I agree. It's stupid to agree, but I do. Winning that game was insanely costly and everyone knew it was going to be. But I get it. The players play to win. You don't become one of the best athletes on earth by having the mindset of deciding when to win and lose.

Exactly. He's worth a mid to late first. I truly believe that... but Carolina needs to get compensation for that #8 pick beyond just Stafford... unless Detroit would be willing to part with a 2nd and 3rd, but I don't see that happening. They are rebuilding. We need a team on the cusp who wants to move up and is willing to pay the price to do so. Any logical scenario would require three teams in my mind.

A three team scenario with Carolina trading back to the 15-20 range to acquire, say, an additional 2nd and 3rd, then trading that #15-20 pick to the Lions for Stafford would be an attractive scenario. I don't think there's enough tread left on those tires to warrant a top 10 pick though.

Wellp. Bucs are gonna win.

Travis Kelce and Lavonte David

Wouldn't be any different than his current circumstances. He'd just have better coaching, although I have nothing against Lafleur.

It would be interesting to see Belichick win 7 superbowls in a row with Rodgers at QB.

No way.

I certainly think he can be. I think in today's NFL your success has much more to do with the coaching than it used to. I think we have good coaching on this team, and I think that coaching is going to improve as they get settled into the pros. I think our coaching staff, assuming we draft him, is what will take him from having star potential to actually being a star.

Well, Teddy did not do a very good job at QB last year. I think everyone with the Panthers knows that an upgrade at the QB position would have netted this team at least 5-6 more wins.

I suspect Dan Campbell will coach MAYBE 3 of those 6 seasons on his contract...

Saying Watson at ANY cost makes it an easy answer. I don't think we should sell the farm for him. I absolutely think he's worth two first rounders and a pick or player. Another guy I hope pops up on the trading block is Wentz. I think he still has potential.

Can he get us to the promised land? No. I would be fine with bringing him if he presented a savings, but I think this is THE year for QBs in the draft. We either need to sell the farm for Deshaun Watson, or hope we land our QB in the draft this year. Stafford would only be a bridge.

Agreed. When I say "day one starter" I don't necessarily mean that the QBs are being groomed in pro systems, but rather, that the offenses are being built around them to such a degree that they truly are the centerpiece of the whole program's success. They're used to carrying the team on their backs from very young ages, and that experience with pressure allows them to step in day one and be ready to lead a pro organization.

Perhaps. I think it's more that that was when the NFL really began to drastically change in how teams gained success. The league shifted toward more of a modern passing attack (many teams trying to emulate the 2007 Pats), and the old school coaches just couldn't adapt. Long story short, I think plenty of talented players failed because teams were depending so heavily on young QBs so early, and many organizations were just throwing stuff at the wall to see what would stick as far as their offenses were concerned. Nowadays college programs are grooming their QBs to be day one starters.

People don't live in reality around here, but honestly, you're speaking truth. The compensation would need to be significant though.

Adding a stadium would be a big deal for Charlotte. We are quickly become a sports city, and sports cities tend to thrive economically. Now we just have to figure out that pesky "winning" thing... In all of our pro franchises.

When he's Deshaun Watson, yes.

Since hearing about him I've watched a lot of Zach Wilson on tape. To me, he's clearly the #2 QB of this draft.

He's going to play. He's not a human being. He's a god.

Like we don't ruin our draft position every year anyway? Do you really think this team has consistently built winning teams using the draft? Clearly that formula isn't working since we draft in the top half of the league nearly every year. Fortune favors the bold. It's time to take a gamble and land an all-world player.

Says the guy posting on a message board....?