DeAngelo Beason

I'm not really in the CJ "camp" per se... the point I was making from the start is just that he's far superior to Bryce. We'd be better off had we drafted him. That said, he's not a top tier QB right now and probably wouldn't be had we drafted him either.

No, he never threw 8 tds in a game. I feel like we're splitting hairs and are describing the exact same situation, but you're looking through the lens of recency bias. Either way, the original point remains the same. CJ Stroud is still far better than Bryce Young.

I'm not sure how old you are, but maybe you don't remember those early playoff games against the Pats where Manning was completely lost and had no clue what he was doing. We absolutely have seen Peyton Manning crumble in the biggest of moments PLENTY of times, especially early in his career.

No. When did I claim he did? I'll take the data of three seasons worth of games over two postseason games. I think, in fact, two random bad games in an otherwise fantastic start to a career is about the definition of an aberration in the context of football. By your logic Peyton Manning should have been shipped off back in 04 when he threw 4 picks against the Pats. There are countless other examples, of course, I could point to, but you (probably) get the point.

Bryce had his best season this year and it wasn't even remotely as good as Stroud's "worst" (2024, which was still a damn good season). His passer rating and efficiency were actually up this year compared to last. His yards and TDs would likely have been higher as well, were it not for missing three games due to injury. So he's actually improved his overall body of work. I don't see any trend downward whatsoever. I agree the playoff game was a meltdown, but I think that had much more to do with missing weapons and what appeared to be an injured hand. After his hand hit the center's helmet his accuracy clearly suffered. It was a terrible game, but I don't foresee it being as career-altering. In regard to the topic of the thread, I'd trade 5 Bryce Youngs for one CJ Stroud in an instant and never look back.

Schultz missed almost the entire game. I'm not talking about the skill group when healthy. I'm talking about the pieces Stroud was missing in the specific game against the Patriots.

This is the only correct response.

It's still CJ by a wide margin. BY has closed the gap, but the gap is still considerably large. Let's not forget CJ was without basically ALL of his weapons in this last game against the Patriots, and I'm pretty sure he had an injury. BY lost to that same Pats team by like 40 points. In fairness, a good bit of that was due to the defense. That said, BY was completely incapable of keeping us in the game. Mistake free football does not always equal good football. He still had a bad game.

Is it really scary? I disagree on everything you said, and you're wrong about the Bills call, but I'm really hung up on how exactly my post "scares" you.

What showed it? Uh, the cameras. The receiver clearly controlling and possessing the ball on camera is what I was using to establish that he clearly controlled and possessed the ball. It was that part when he had both hands firmly on it and he had it pressed against his body all the way down to the ground, only to lose possession after being down and the DB ripping it away.

That would make sense were it not for the fact that it doesn't make sense. Every single angle and image of the play shows him clearly possessing the ball while down. He was taken to the ground by the DB and lost control of the ball after he was down. The fact that the exact same scenario played out one night later and was called the opposite way only further cements that the officials just pick and choose how they want to interpret a call at any given time. Again, I say this as someone who was rooting against the Bills in that game.

The refs get the advantage of replay assistance as well. That argument doesn't hold up. You're wrong on the Bills call. And for the record I've absolutely hated the bills ever since they started siphoning off our organization. That was a ridiculous call and wasn't consistent with the precise, exact same situation that occurred with the Rams and Bears last night.

Philly is home to him the way a young man's parent's basement is home to him. Sure, you lived there, but you didn't become a man til you moved into your own home. Carolina is his real home.

What are you even talking about? Did you watch the same play I did? The ball wasn't even near DJ Moore.

NFL officials are the most incompetent fools in all of sport. They are ruining the game more and more with each passing season. The NFL HAS to implement a real accountability policy. 1 - Hire them as full time employees. 2 - Implement accountability measures in exchange for full-time employment.