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Wilson is amazing. Love watching him play.
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That as a problem is a little overstated.
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People who think Mac Jones is anywhere in the top 10 conversation are smoking crack.
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If they are moving up I would imagine it would be for Wilson or Lance. Wilson if they can get to #2 and Lance if they can get to #3. Fields being the wild card here. I don't think most evaluators have Lance and Fields that far apart so who knows. For the record, my friend has Fields as his #3 guy.
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Yeah probably.
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Putting this here. "Hearing Panthers are moving forward with QB in draft. Expect trade up for their guy. Watson ship is over horizon now"
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Not a great day for Mac Jones.
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REPORT: Panthers remain interested in Deshaun Watson trade
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Nor do I. -
REPORT: Panthers remain interested in Deshaun Watson trade
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Probably a few weeks. -
REPORT: Panthers remain interested in Deshaun Watson trade
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I imagine we would attack QB in the draft. Can't afford a wait and see strategy for a QB. -
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If he is cleared anytime soon, he is a Panther. Tepper will not rest. IF -
I love Pitts. Would be thrilled to have him if FIelds/Lance are both off the board.
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So this thread is happening again then.
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I have Fields and Lance with virtually the same grade, I would be happy with either.
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Love Davis Mills, lots of ability there.
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His pocket awareness has made me cringe at times, other times he shows great ability to sense and escape. His decision making needs work, as do most of the QB prospects in the draft. Both of which are very obviously fixable, and he showed growth in both areas meaning they are improving. He isn't oblivious a ton, but he has moments where these things escape him.
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I wouldn't see Mond as a 1st round pick anyway. You take him in the 2nd and hope he absorbs the coaching he receives. He definitely has starting potential.
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He definitely has some decision making issues, hence why you would not just throw him out as a starter day one. However, his quick flick release, strong arm, athleticism, growth, and playmaking ability puts him in the conversation to be a starter after you start ironing out the kinks in his game. He has a high ceiling, and there aren't things you can't teach him. Granted, his pocket awareness makes me cringe at times, just getting laid out in the NFL would be a serious problem, and as you stated his decision making needs work.
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I just did in my draft general thread. I would take Justin Fields.
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I would be shocked if someone doesn't trade to 3 for a QB.
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Everything is kind of messed up right now with the Watson thing, so I say this with not as much confidence as I probably would otherwise, but I don't really see much of a scenario where we don't come out of this draft with a QB. If somehow we whiff, I think Tepper would be extremely upset, but we would likely take the best tackle available or Kyle Pitts. I like AVT more as a guard, but think he will be fine at either position.
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I think teams (rightly so) have become much more reliant on game tape and consistency of the prospect. There will likely be cases of guys going ahead of other guys that no one sees coming if only because that player opted out and this player has tape from 2020 that I can look at and say for sure what I am getting with them. Showing growth and consistency is an underrated part of a prospect. If you give me one year of so-so production, and then opt out, are your measurables really going to put you ahead of a guy who has a little less of the measurables but produced and grew at a high level? Probably not. As far as contracting COVID there is so many unknowns to that, but these kids are healthy and young, I don't believe that is something that is factored in at all.
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I kind of don't, but if you are the Panthers you have to work on the idea that they do want a QB.
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Let me dump my most recent positional rankings since it won't let me edit it into the original post, then I will get to some of your questions. @Ricky Spanish idk if you could unlock that edit feature or not, it would be extremely helpful for this post. QBs: 1. Trevor Lawrence, QB, CLE 2. Zach Wilson, QB, BYU 3. Justin Fields, QB, OHST 4. Trey Lance, QB, NDSU 5. Kellen Mond, QB, TAM RBs: 1. Travis Etienne, RB, CLE 2. Najee Harris, RB, ALA 3. Javonte Williams, RB, UNC 4. Kenny Gainwell, RB, MEM 5. Trey Sermon, RB, OHST WRs: 1. JaMarr Chase, WR, LSU 2. Jaylen Waddle, WR, ALA 3. Devonta Smith, WR, ALA 4. Kadarius Toney, WR, FLO 5. Rondale Moore, WR, PUR TEs: 1-5. Kyle Pitts, TE/WR, FLO 2. Brevin Jordan, TE, MIA 3. Pat Freiermuth, TE, PEN 4. Hunter Long, TE, BC 5. Tre McKitty, TE, GEO OT: 1. Penei Sewell, OT, ORE 2. Christian Darrisaw, OT, VT 3. Alex Leatherwood, OT, ALA 4. Jalen Mayfield, OT, MICH 5. Alijah Vera-Tucker, OT/G, USC Interior O-line: 1. Rashawn Slater, OT/G/C, NW 2. Alijah Vera-Tucker, OT/G, USC 3. Landon Dickerson, C/G, ALA 4. Wyatt Davis, G, OHST 5. Trey Smith, G, TEN (depending on medicals) Edge: 1. Jaelan Philips, DE, MIA 2. Kwity Paye, DE, MICH 3. Gregory Rousseau, DE, MIA 4. Zaven Collins, EDGE, TUL 5. Azeez Ojulari, EDGE, GEO Defensive Tackle: 1. Christian Barmore, DT, ALA 2. Levi Onwuzurike, DT, WAS 3. Jay Tufele, DT, USC 4. Daviyon Nixon, DT, IOW 5. Marvin Wilson, DT, FST LB: 1. Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, OLB/ILB/S, ND 2. Micah Parsons, ILB/OLB, PEN 3. Jamin Davis, ILB/OLB, KEN 4. Nick Bolton, ILB/OLB, MIZZ 5. Jabril Cox, ILB/OLB, LSU S: 1. Jevon Holland, S, ORE 2. Trevon Moehrig, S, TCU 3. Tyree Gillespie, S, MIZZ 4. Richie Grant, S, CF 5. Hamsah Nasirildeen, S, FLST CB: 1. Jaycee Horn, CB, SC 2. Patrick Surtain II., CB, ALA 3. Caleb Farley, CB, VT 4. Tyson Campbell, CB, GEO 5. Kelvin Joseph, CB, KEN